[TOEC] Fwd: RE: [CCF] RE: sac 2002 results

Tue Sep 16 23:01:50 EDT 2003

Hej!

Jukka, OH6LI bad mig vidarebefordra detta mail till
TOEC-reflektorn

73 de Janne/SM3Cer

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>Hi all,
>
>My apologies.
>
>
>This is just because I was not aware Swedish team did this earlier.
>
>I knew EZT & CER (& co?). had done the SW but my assumption
>was wrong regarding how extensive the work was.
>Apparently it was 100%.
>
>OH1NOA pointed the issue to me directly right after my
>post to CCF reflector, so someone in Finland did know
>the work was done to perfection already three years ago !
>
>
>I have been trying to get volunteers to participate
>the logchecking for SAC2003.
>So far, no Finns have volunteered.
>
>
>I have stated in the Finnish Radioamatoori Magazine
>the coverage of our logchecking may be compromised.
>Coverage depends on the number of the volunteers to type
>the logs in.
>
>We will see in a month's time how this goes.
>
>
>Congratulations to Jan & co for the first fully-checked
>SAC in 2000.
>
>I will use this information to try to inspire some
>Finns to volunteer:  If you Swedes have done this earlier,
>we Finns must be able to get this done now with at least same
>performance level !
>
>
>Jan has been helping me in arranging the SAC2003 already
>now pretty much.
>Thank you, Jan !
>
>I have started to refer to Jan's contest service on the web
>in my each monthly editorial, Finland has not won all of
>the past Nordic battles, not even on 20m battles in international
>contests.
>
>I believe the victory of the SAC 2003 is not at all clearly
>coming to OH.
>
>
>Jan, please, if this does not go through to toec, please
>do forward.
>
>
>73,
>Jukka OH6LI
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ext SM3CER - 7S3A [mailto:sm3cer at contesting.com]
> > Sent: 16 September, 2003 15:04
> > To: Klemola Jukka (NMP/Salo); Marko.Siirtola at tt.tampere.fi;
> > ccf at contesting.com
> > Cc: torvald at eurab.se; jpvest at mail.tele.dk; toec at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CCF] RE: sac 2002 results
> >
> >
> > Hello fellow contesters!
> >
> > I don't agree with Jukka about his statement that the SAC logs now
> > are checked for the first time in history. The first time was for
> > the SAC logs 2000, where ALL logs were checked by using Cabrillo
> > and a log checking program made by SM2EZT and myself. We spent
> > hundreds of hours to develop the software and I think ALL logs
> > were fairly checked that year.
> >
> > I'm sorry that LA9HW did not use our software in 2001, so that year
> > the logs were not checked properly.
> >
> > For 2002 OZ5WQ adopted our software and he has done a tremendous job
> > so far. The problem is that he did not get too much help with the
> > conversion of electronic logs to Cabrillo and to type the paper logs
> > to get a useful Cabrillo log. I offered my help from the very
> > beginning,
> > but he choosed to do the work himself. He only let me help him with a
> > few logs in the beginning of this year, which he couldn't read in his
> > computer.
> >
> > Yesterday (Monday 15 September 2003) SM2EZT and I got an
> > e-mail containing
> > 48 CW-logs, which OZ5WQ couldn't read in the log checking
> > program. We have
> > both worked very hard yesterday and today with those logs to
> > get them OK
> > and we have almost fixed all of them. I will send the
> > corrected logs back
> > to OZ5WQ later today.
> >
> > I also got all the other 447 logs for the CW-part in another
> > e-mail from
> > OZ5WQ for information. I have started to look at those logs
> > as well, and
> > found many logs with wrong format and QSO information missing. I have
> > corrected also a few of those logs, so the log checking program should
> > be able to do it's job. There are still some logs that need
> > corrections
> > in their Cabrillo format and SM2EZT and I will do our best to
> > help OZ5WQ
> > with his problems. I'm very sorry he didn't ask for our help
> > much earlier!
> >
> > Jukka/OH6LI has also adopted the log checking software for
> > this year and
> > I will send the programs to him later this week. I don't know
> > how Jukka
> > will plan and organize the work, but I have a suggestion to
> > make the log
> > checking and the presentation of the final results faster
> > than for 2002.
> >
> > If Jukka decides to check ALL the logs he will need some help
> > with typing
> > the paper logs into Cabrillo. In SAC 2000 there were around
> > 200 paper logs
> > and we were 10 persons typing those logs. That work needs to be done
> > immediately after the paper log is received. Also all logs
> > received via
> > e-mail that needs to be converted to Cabrillo must be processed
> > immediately after receipt. You need to check that all information is
> > available and if not, send an e-mail back and ask for a new complete
> > log. You can't just collect the logs for some months and then
> > start the
> > typing and conversions next spring.
> >
> > If Jukka needs any help from SM2EZT and myself we are only an
> > e-mail or
> > phone call away...
> >
> > Now most of the contest software can produce a correct
> > Cabrillo log for
> > SAC, so there should be less work this year compared to SAC
> > 2000. There
> > should also be less paper logs (I think), so that work should also be
> > much easier. It seems TR Log still produces a wrong Cabrillo
> > format for
> > SAC, so be very careful to check your Cabrillo log made by
> > TR, before you
> > send it to Jukka. (The columns are at the wrong places and the sent
> > serial numbers are missing). It's also very important that you use UTC
> > in your log. If there are too big differencies in the time when cross
> > checking a QSO, there can be problems. It could lead to loss of a QSO.
> >
> > A Cabrillo template for SAC can be seen at:
> >
> > http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/saccabr.htm
> >
> > Read that page carefully and try to understand how a Cabrillo log is
> > composed.
> >
> > Good luck in this years SAC!
> >
> > 73 de Jan/SM3CER
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Jan-Eric Rehn - SM3CER - Contest call: 7S3A
> > SSA Contest Manager - SWEDEN
> > E-mail: sm3cer at contesting.com - ICQ: 11074897
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> > Also QRV in MS or MM from: SI9AM - SK3IK - SL3ZV
> > K6U at WRTC-96 / Referee at WRTC-2000 and WRTC-2002
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > At 09:16 2003-09-16, jukka.klemola at nokia.com wrote:
> > >OZ5WQ promises the results soon.
> > >Danes have done a massive amount of work.
> > >
> > >The logs are checked now for the first time in the history of SAC.
> > >They still have some problems with logfiles, unfortunately.
> > >
> > >73,
> > >Jukka OH6LI
> > >
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