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Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage.

To: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>, "k1fz" <K1FZ@prexar.com>,<topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage.
From: "john battin" <jbattin@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 06:57:50 -0600
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Rauch<mailto:w8ji@contesting.com> 
  To: john battin<mailto:jbattin@msn.com> ; k1fz<mailto:K1FZ@prexar.com> ; 
topband@contesting.com<mailto:topband@contesting.com> 
  Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:52 AM
  Subject: Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage.



  I believe the advantage you are seeing with a low beverage
  is the reduction of pick-up from the feeds. When you think
  about it, the 8 foot vertical at each end of the higher
  beverage is 1/4 wave on 10 meters and this signal dominates
  the signal picked up by the beverage. At lower frequencies
  the effect is lesser, but still effects f/b and f/s
  signals.>>


  I don't see how that could be. The radiation resistance of a
  short vertical with uniform current can be closely
  approximated by multiplying 1580 times height in fractions
  of a wavelength squared.

  A 1/100th wavelength tall vertical with uniform current has
  a radiation resistance of  .15 ohms.

  .15 ohms radiation resistance is a tiny part of 400-600 ohms
  antenna impedance.

  The mechanism going on (I've never seen an improvement here
  laying a Beverage on the ground) is probably the velocity
  factor of the wire has decreased increasing effective
  length, or he has managed to position a null on a dominant
  local noise source.

  What everyone seems to ignore is the entire Beverage from
  end-to-end receives vertically polarized signals. It is very
  unlikely that two mismatched 1/100th WL long verticals would
  ever inject meaningful noise or unwanted signal to a wire 1
  or 2 wl long that the 1-2 wl long wire wouldn't already be
  receiving.

  If the ends had enough sensitivity to change noise level,
  the pattern would be terrible. It all comes back to antenna
  pattern.

  73 Tom

  All this may be fine but with beverages 8 foot beverages, on higher 
frequencies if I cut the beverage off  and just leave the feed, the signal 
stays the same. As the frequency goes lower the effect diminishes but still is 
enough to effect f/b and f/s. I  have measured it.
  John
  John
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