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Re: Topband: VE3DO Loop

To: K9AY <k9ay@k9ay.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: VE3DO Loop
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:55:13 -0500
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For whatever it is worth, afew years ago I put up an endfire array of two K9AYs spaced 135 feet, phased 180 degrees. It worked probably the best of any receiving antenna I have had here on 160M. Modeling with NEC2 showed an excellent RDF - whether that was achieved in real life only God knows.

For anyone who wonders, the 180 degree phasing was chosen because it was dead easy to implement, was not fussy with respect to matching, and gave the highest RDF at the expense of a little F/B.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 2/14/2013 3:08 PM, K9AY wrote:
W8JI said:

...(we probably all know) elongated loops are not really loops in function. 
They are really phased verticals, and the horizontal part or component of the 
conductors is simply a phasing line. K9AY's, Flags, Pennants, EWE's, and other 
forms of elongated loops are really all just phased verticals in function.

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Not so. Time to put this misconception to rest.

Read my description of K9AY Loop operation in the most recent ARRL Antenna Book 
and review the description of a DF loop with sense antenna in that, or earlier 
antenna books.

I have never been able to achieve the same pattern as the loop using 
close-spaced elements in a phased array. However, a model using a small loop in 
combination with a nearby short vertical does indeed result in the same 
pattern. (Feed them with equal currents and 90 deg. phase shift.)

Magnetic lines of force from an arriving wavefront MUST induce currents in a 
loop. You can't ignore them and assume that the vertical end portions are the 
only place energy is captured.

73, Gary
K9AY

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