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Subject: Topband: twisted pair cable
From: "Bruce" <k1fz@myfairpoint.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:48:46 -0700
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Wondered why this cable was working well. Of the cables this company is selling it appears the only one that has its impedance (55 ohms) posted. I decided to cut a section lengthwise to find out if the drain wire was in fact was next to the twisted pair and it is not. It runs in a straight line on the outside of the foil.
http://www.markertek.com/Cables/Bulk-Wire-Cable/Bulk-Audio-Cable/West-Penn-Wire-Corp/WP-D25291-P.xhtml?WP-D25291-1000

73 Bruce-K1FZ



It is working well, and possibly because it is buried except a short distance at both ends. I was avoiding burying a non shielded, twisted pair with possible varying losses due to
changing ground conditions.

73
Bruce-K1FZ



On 8/12/2013 1:42 PM, Bruce wrote:
I am using a twisted  pair, with shield,  that is near  55 ohm
impedance for
my receiving delta loop. The cable is designed for audio,

Depending on the nature of that cable, you're probably better off
without the shield if both ends are transformer-isolated as I described.
There are two potential problems. First, the shield provides a lovely
path for common mode current, which can couple noise via Pin One
Problems to a rig. Second, if the cable shield is foil plus drain wire
("rack wire" like Belden 8451), shield current will be STRONGLY coupled
to the twisted pair by a mechanism that Neil Muncy named
"shield-current-induced noise" (SCIN). The mechanism is that the drain
wire has the same lay as the signal pair, and is manufactured so that it
is much closer to one conductor the pair than the other. This results in
more inductive coupling to the closer conductor, converting the common
mode current to a differential voltage.

73, Jim K9YC
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