Well to even admit you have installed WSJT in you computer , use it to
work H40TT
then stab FT8 in the back is some hypercritical me thinks !!
"I" also worked said station FT8 and tried cw.
Ross ZL3RJ ( from small sized section ( lot ) at the other end of
our world.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: H40TT on 160 (ws6x.ars@gmail.com)
2. Saturday Night (Roger Kennedy)
3. AS / EU QRM - The Cocktail Party Effect (Fred Kleber)
4. Re: Saturday Night (g3nkc)
5. OFF TOPIC: AMP NEEDS RIDE FROM DFW TO FL (Artek Manuals)
6. VU2 on top band (K9FD)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 08:09:14 -0500
From: <ws6x.ars@gmail.com>
To: <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: H40TT on 160
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 05:42:54 -0700
From: Wes <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
Subject: Re: Topband: H40TT on 160m
Conditions are awful with horrible noise this AM.? Haven't figured out whether
it is local or what. I don't need H40 and I'm defiantly not a fan of FT8.
Nevertheless, I set up the rig and unsuccessfully called for awhile before
deciding to come into the office and check my email.
I just stepped back into the shack and see that "I" worked him at 12:26:30 with
a -15 signal report.
Wes,
Can you check your playback text files to see if "I" worked him around 12:20? ?
Jim - WS6X
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:49:45 -0000
From: "Roger Kennedy" <roger@wessexproductions.co.uk>
To: <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: Saturday Night
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I too came on for a couple of hours on 160m during the CQ WW . . .
Top Band wasn't at all noisy here in Europe, although conditions weren't
nearly as good as during the week - most signals were about 15dB down.
I worked everyone I could hear (about 20 NA stations, and a couple of
Caribbeans) . . . but as Dave G3NKC posted, the problem is that there are
dozens of very strong Europeans on the band (some S9 +40dB with me!), so
picking out the weak DX signals in-between can be hard work, even with good
filters ! (especially as they weren't as strong as normal)
That's the problem with Top Band, even compared to 80m, there's no Skip, so
you hear everyone on the band ! (on 80m even other Gs can sometimes be quite
weak . . . but that never happens on 160m)
Actually I heard several other NA stations . . . including K1WHS . . . but
they were calling EU stations, so I couldn't call them. If they had called
CQ I'm sure I could have worked them. (I didn't want to put out a CQ call
myself, as I would have had hundreds of EU stations calling me! Do you think
you can call CQ DX during a Contest?!))
Roger G3YRO
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:08:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Fred Kleber <kleberf@bellsouth.net>
To: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: AS / EU QRM - The Cocktail Party Effect
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Hi Top Banders,
Having operated from the other end on a number of continents, I offer the
following explanations of why NA hams may wonder why they can't work distant
stations:?
SE Asia - The amount of non-ham QRM in the ham bands is unbelievable.? Most
notable are the Indonesian (and probably other countries) fisherman who
populate wide swaths of spectrum and have little to no regard for spectrum
allocations.? They just go buy a cheap ham rig, make it general coverage, and
off they go.? Additionally the beacons on fishing nets can also create quite a
racket.? Oh yes, the commercial power suppliers in poorer countries most likely
don't even care about repairing line nose.? One other challenge is the echo
from NA stations which is frequently present on the low bands.? Pileups
particularly exacerbate this phenomenon.??
Europe - Here's the cocktail party analogy.? When a cocktail party starts, a
few people come in the door, grab a drink and start talking to each other.? As
more people join the party, the room fills up and the ambient noise (QRM)
rises.? In order to be communicate, guests talk louder.? More people join the
party and the audible QRM noise floor rises.? In the radio world parallel,
equate guest's speech with RF and talking louder with running more power.? Then
consider that many countries don't effectively regulate TX power output, and
you have a real mess.? Most north american's can't understand when I tell them
that if you're not at least S-9 on 80-20 meters, you're most likely not going
to be heard.??
I hope you find this information useful.
73 & good DX,Fred, NP2X / K9VV et al.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:17:57 +0000
From: g3nkc <g3nkc@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Roger Kennedy <roger@wessexproductions.co.uk>,
topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Saturday Night
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Just waiting for my flight back From GD.Whenever I ran, we had immense pile
ups, seems that there is less discipline each year.??It can be frustrating in
EU for us too? , I am betting some dx would have called me? , but wouldn't have
got through the wall.I did work FY5, CX6, KP2, KP3,? JT5, PJ4, V47, and all US
zones.Couldn't raise HI3CC, C6AGU, or ZW5BI think 160 was in good shape.?73
Dave G3NKC? / MD4K?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Roger Kennedy
<roger@wessexproductions.co.uk> Date: 25/11/2019 14:49 (GMT+00:00) To:
topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Saturday Night I too came on for a couple of
hours on 160m during the CQ WW . . .Top Band wasn't at all noisy here in Europe,
although conditions weren'tnearly as good as during the week - most signals were
about 15dB down.I worked everyone I could hear (about 20 NA stations, and a couple
ofCaribbeans) . . . but as Dave G3NKC posted, the problem is that there aredozens of
very strong Europeans on the band (some S9 +40dB with me!), sopicking out the weak DX
signals in-between can be hard work, even with goodfilters ! (especially as they
weren't as strong as normal)That's the problem with Top Band, even compared to 80m,
there's no Skip, soyou hear everyone on the band ! (on 80m even other Gs can
sometimes be quiteweak . . . but that never happens on 160m)Actually I heard several
other NA stations . . . including K1WHS .
. . butthey were calling EU stations, so I couldn't call them. If they had
calledCQ I'm sure I could have worked them.? (I didn't want to put out a CQ
callmyself, as I would have had hundreds of EU stations calling me! Do you
thinkyou can call CQ DX during a Contest?!))Roger
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 10:41:41 -0500
From: Artek Manuals <Manuals@ArtekManuals.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: OFF TOPIC: AMP NEEDS RIDE FROM DFW TO FL
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Apologies in advance for off topic post
If there is anyone on the list in the DFW area that is DRIVING to
FLORIDA between now and the end of the year? ? I have an 80 lb amplifier
( Alpha 9500) that needs a ride. Would obviously much rather it make the
trip in someone's trunk than pay the gorillas at the various shipping
services to drop test? it several times.
We will have the unit delivered to your house and we will meet you on
this end preferably in the Tampa/Orlando area but other spots in Florida
are workable. beggars cant be too choosy. We will gladly pay your gas
bill as a return for the favor
I suppose anyone driving round trip from Tampa/Orlando to DFW for the
holidays would also work, bringing the amp back on your return?
Contact me OFF LIST PLEASE
Dave
NR1DX
nr1dx@arrl.net
manuals@artekmanuals.com
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Dave
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:56:58 -1000
From: K9FD <merv.k9fd@gmail.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: VU2 on top band
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I have worked VU on top band just before their rules changed and they were
not allowed to use freq around 1840,?? today I worked VU2 on top band again
and he was on 1840.?? I wonder if any one knows if the rules have changed
again and they are allowed to use those freqs.
One thing I notice "that" mode is good for is watching for peaks and
nulls in
received signals,?? I hear a lot of folks saying they are not seeing
sunrise and
sunset peaks,?? I see them as I have for the past 50 plus years of
operating top band.
I watched today as the VU2 went from -20 at 1634Z to -13 at 1650Z, my
sunrise is 1646Z,? so there was a definite peak at my sunrise as there
normally is.?? I also have a peak about an hour before sunrise normally,
Sunset is the same,? signals peak at sunset and again an hour after.
I was hoping to catch 5H3 on top band for one of the two last zones for
WAZ from this QTH.?? But heard or saw nothing of him.?? I think I have a
shot if he would hang around until my sunrise.?? But not to be.
73 Merv K9FD? Molokai Island Hawaii.
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