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Subject: Topband: Measuring Common Mode Chokes
From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:19:40 -0800
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 23:46:56 +0000
From: Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@msn.com>
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Subject: Topband: Measuring Common Mode Chokes

<In the past, I have simply used my N2PK VNA to measure impedance of the choke 
by connecting the shield of the coax to the VNA ports.

<Recently I've been discussing common mode chokes with others who have a 
different methodology.
<They prefer to do a transmission test through the choke and report the "common 
mode rejection".
<This is done by placing a crossover cable between the VNA output and the 
choke. The choke output is connected in a normal fashion (center to center, 
shield to shield) to the VNA input.

<This does not seem ideal to me.
<First, the choke is being driven in differential mode rather than common mode.
<Second, the measurement depends on (varying) isolation between the coax center 
and shield. So it's not truly common mode rejection.

<Am I on thr right track?
<A handful of Googles has not netted me any clear summary of test methodology 
for reporting CMRR. I find a small number of tests reporting impedance.

<Chuck



##  I  measure the  actual common  mode  current  with a MFJ-854  clamp  on  RF 
 ammeter.   Good  from less than 1ma  to  3A.   Just  clamps  around  the 213-U 
 coax. 
Then when  swapping CM  chokes,  any changes or  improvements, or  worsening is 
 readily  apparent  at  a glance.   I measure  In  several places  on  the  
coax  run, and  all  are well  marked. 
https://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-854      Switchable In 
 5  ranges.

Jim   VE7RF




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