Add this to your list Jose.
Mark Connelly WA1ION. Describing some Flag RX antenna with Vactrol
terminating resistance.
https://www.qsl.net/wa1ion/flag/flag_antenna.htm
73
Vic G4BYG
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Today's Topics:
1. Dual loaded loop receiving antenna Historical Evolution
(Jose_Carlos)
2. Re: Dual loaded loop receiving antenna Historical Evolution
(Rick Kunath)
3. Re: FW: The WD8DSB mini-flag antenna (LONG!)
(Richard (Rick) Karlquist)
4. Receiver Equivalent Noise Bandwidth (n4is@comcast.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:27:50 -0500
From: Jose_Carlos <N4IS@COMCAST.NET>
To: CUTTER DAVID via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: Dual loaded loop receiving antenna Historical
Evolution
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Hi guys
This is a collection of paper I was able to put together, please it is a
working in progress and new entries are welcome. My eye is not doing well and
it is hard for me to type, so this is a copy and paste.
1919
March 5, 1919, Roy A. Weagant, Chief Engineer of the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Co.
of America, delivered a paper describing in detail his apparatus for the elimination
of the great bug-bear of transoceanic wireless communication --static interference.
>>
http://infoage.org/html/wa-1919-04-p11.html
1938
Harold Beverage invented wide band receiver antenna, loaded loop. The present
invention relates to short wave antennas and, more particularly, to antennas
for receiving horizontally polarized waves over a wide band of frequencies. An
object of the present invention is to enable the reception of horizontally
polarized signals over a wide band of frequencies such-as is at present used in
television.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US2247743.pdf
1940.
Nearly all the newly re-invented compact receive antennas derive from the
terminated loop, the earliest reference was in an appallingly mimeographed
prewar training manual of W3EEE Dad?s
1973
COMMUNICATIONS 74 CONFERENCE BRIGHTON Wednesday, June 5 1974 ?Session 5 Equipment
Design Paper 5.3: Loop Antennas for HF Reception Contributed by: B.S. Collins, C
& S Antennas Ltd.,
1995
JF1DMQ wrote an earlier article about the Flag antenna in November 1995 in a
Japanese magazine. His was only 3.3 feet by 16.4 feet long (1 by 5 m). K6SE's
160m optimized versions are 14 by 29 feet (4.3 by 8.8m).
1995
"Is This EWE for You?" (QST February, 1995, p.31) and "More EWES for You",
QST January, 1996, p. 32) both by WA2WVL.
1996
The Pennant was originated by EA3VYand optimized for 160 meters by K6SE, who
first wrote about them on the Top Band Reflector in 1998
1997
The K9AYTerminated Loop?A Compact, Directional Receiving Antenna By Gary Breed,
K9AY
1998
W7IUV rotatable Flag and preamplifier >> http://w7iuv.com/
2000
QST Magazine, July 2000, page 34 for K6SE's classic article:
"Flags, Pennants, and Other Ground-Independent Low-Band Receiving Antennas" ...
2003
NX4D developed the first dual flag vertical array
2006
N4IS developed the BIG flag vertical array
2008
N4IS developed the Horizontal flag array
2009
Dr Dallas Lankford, wrote the Flag Theory and design the Quad Flag Array >>
Dallas Files The Dallas Files are now found here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thedallasfiles2
2009
AA7JV George Wallner developed the DHDL (TX3A) >>
http://tx3a.com/docs/TX3A_DOUBLE_HALF_DELTA_LOOP.ZIP
2009
DOUBLING the Double Half-Delta Loop Receiving Antenna
by Pierluigi?Luis? MansuttiIV3PRK >>
http://www.iv3prk.it/user/image/..-rxant.prk_tx3a.pdf
Please add new papers
73?s
JC
N4IS
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:35:14 -0500
From: Rick Kunath <k9ao@yahoo.com>
To: Jose_Carlos <N4IS@COMCAST.NET>, CUTTER DAVID via Topband
<topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Dual loaded loop receiving antenna Historical
Evolution
Message-ID: <9fa3ca98-99ac-f952-0643-11a1245e6e63@yahoo.com>
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JC,
Thanks for posting this.
That first link doesn't work, it comes up article not found. The W7IUV
link is down also.
The Dallas Lankford files have been removed (by request) and that Yahoo
link is not valid any longer, but there are complete sets of his papers
floating around on the Internet still.
Just wanted to mention that.
Rick Kunath, K9AO
On 2/26/2021 11:27 AM, Jose_Carlos wrote:
Hi guys
This is a collection of paper I was able to put together, please it is a
working in progress and new entries are welcome. My eye is not doing well and
it is hard for me to type, so this is a copy and paste.
1919
March 5, 1919, Roy A. Weagant, Chief Engineer of the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Co.
of America, delivered a paper describing in detail his apparatus for the elimination
of the great bug-bear of transoceanic wireless communication --static interference.
>>
http://infoage.org/html/wa-1919-04-p11.html
1938
Harold Beverage invented wide band receiver antenna, loaded loop. The present
invention relates to short wave antennas and, more particularly, to antennas
for receiving horizontally polarized waves over a wide band of frequencies. An
object of the present invention is to enable the reception of horizontally
polarized signals over a wide band of frequencies such-as is at present used in
television.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US2247743.pdf
1940.
Nearly all the newly re-invented compact receive antennas derive from the
terminated loop, the earliest reference was in an appallingly mimeographed
prewar training manual of W3EEE Dad?s
1973
COMMUNICATIONS 74 CONFERENCE BRIGHTON Wednesday, June 5 1974 ?Session 5 Equipment
Design Paper 5.3: Loop Antennas for HF Reception Contributed by: B.S. Collins, C
& S Antennas Ltd.,
1995
JF1DMQ wrote an earlier article about the Flag antenna in November 1995 in a
Japanese magazine. His was only 3.3 feet by 16.4 feet long (1 by 5 m). K6SE's
160m optimized versions are 14 by 29 feet (4.3 by 8.8m).
1995
"Is This EWE for You?" (QST February, 1995, p.31) and "More EWES for You",
QST January, 1996, p. 32) both by WA2WVL.
1996
The Pennant was originated by EA3VYand optimized for 160 meters by K6SE, who
first wrote about them on the Top Band Reflector in 1998
1997
The K9AYTerminated Loop?A Compact, Directional Receiving Antenna By Gary Breed,
K9AY
1998
W7IUV rotatable Flag and preamplifier >> http://w7iuv.com/
2000
QST Magazine, July 2000, page 34 for K6SE's classic article:
"Flags, Pennants, and Other Ground-Independent Low-Band Receiving Antennas" ...
2003
NX4D developed the first dual flag vertical array
2006
N4IS developed the BIG flag vertical array
2008
N4IS developed the Horizontal flag array
2009
Dr Dallas Lankford, wrote the Flag Theory and design the Quad Flag Array >>
Dallas Files The Dallas Files are now found here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thedallasfiles2
2009
AA7JV George Wallner developed the DHDL (TX3A) >>
http://tx3a.com/docs/TX3A_DOUBLE_HALF_DELTA_LOOP.ZIP
2009
DOUBLING the Double Half-Delta Loop Receiving Antenna
by Pierluigi?Luis? MansuttiIV3PRK >>
http://www.iv3prk.it/user/image/..-rxant.prk_tx3a.pdf
Please add new papers
73?s
JC
N4IS
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:46:50 -0800
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
To: john.kaufmann@verizon.net, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: FW: The WD8DSB mini-flag antenna (LONG!)
Message-ID: <9180c166-149a-fa6a-a4d4-cc3a2a9fd9da@karlquist.com>
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On 2/26/2021 7:31 AM, John Kaufmann via Topband wrote:
I think there may be some semantic confusion over the term "averaging" and
how averaging affects noise when making spectral measurements, so let me
clarify what I mean. My comments are specific to the P3 but are fairly
Averaging is a nice technique that mitigates the poor sensitivity
of the mini-flag, but only for "bright lines" due to power
supplies, etc. I would be surprised if it would do anything
to improve DF'ing power line noise, which is clearly a major
application domain.
73
Rick N6RK
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:59:58 -0500
From: <n4is@comcast.net>
To: <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: Receiver Equivalent Noise Bandwidth
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Here the procedure I used to measure my receiver equivalent bandwith to
calculate NF.
https://www.owenduffy.net/measurement/enb/MeasureIfBw.htm
SpecrunLab is also a very good tool to measure EBW
https://www.owenduffy.net/measurement/enb/MeasureIfBw2.htm
JC
N4IS
73's
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