I have no idea how any of this FT stuff works and don’t really want to know but
I am very interested to know how the ARRL knows whether someone is sleeping or
awake.
Stan, K5GO
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> On Nov 5, 2022, at 2:26 PM, Lloyd - N9LB <lloydberg@tds.net> wrote:
>
> You guys don't know what you are talking about.
>
> The WSJT Modes, including FT8 and FT4, require a live operator ( not someone
> sleeping ) to initiate each contact.
> ( There is also a time-out timer that limits the number of times it
> calls/replies before going back to standby )
> and
> The ARRL requires at live operator ( not someone sleeping ) to initiate each
> contact before they will consider the contact legitimate.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+lloydberg=tds.net@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Hans Hjelmström
> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: kq2m@kq2m.com
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: J28MD, conditions
>
> Hi Bob
>
> And I can tell you,,,,I feel same,,,,PLUS it has also destroyed the fun on
> 50 mc. NO CW or SSB to be heard ( except TZ4AM and TT8SN still on CW/SSB).
> Both 5V7RU/ ty5RU and J28MD ONLY FT 8 unheard mode. NOT even a try on CW,even
> that conditions are perfect.
> This is VERY SAD and will impact of activity in future for many of us.
>
> Take care and stay safe
>
> Hans SM6CVX / NO Ft 8 ever
>> 5 nov 2022 kl. 19:39 skrev kq2m@kq2m.com:
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday I heard but could not work VK6IR, but I did work VK6GX on
>> Thursday for my first zone 29 qso on 160 since VK6HD about 3 decades ago.
>> My antenna is a modest 160 Inv L with elevated radials. When the band
>> has very good cndx I can work almost anything that I can hear. But on
>> the marginal days there is quite a bit of long-haul DX that eludes me.
>> ;-) (I'm still missing zones 22, 23, 24, 26, and 27)
>>
>> What is maddening to me is that it used to be that FT4 / FT8 was used by
>> some DXpeditions AFTER they had already worked 160 CW. Now, to my great
>> disappointment, more and more DXpeditions are routinely using FT4 and/or FT8
>> IN PLACE of 160 cw, even though they are perfectly capable of operating 160
>> CW. Sadly, this trend seems to be getting more and more pervasive.
>>
>> Recently, 5V7RU has ONLY been on FT4 / FT8 on 80 and 160, with NO cw at all
>> on those bands.
>> This follows the previous country they were in where they operated 80 cw but
>> no 160 cw.
>>
>> J28MD has operated 160 cw very briefly and typically avoids it, instead
>> preferring FT8.
>>
>> I get it.... It is far easier to work stations on FT4 or FT8 than on
>> cw. And using those unattended modes allow qsos to be made while the
>> Dxpedition operators sleep. But that does not make me feel better about it.
>>
>> I am not interested in the digital modes, preferring the traditional
>> modes of CW and SSB. I understand that others feel differently, which is
>> fine. But it bothers me that DXpeditions are now avoiding CW on 80/160
>> because they just don't want to bother.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, KQ2M
>
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