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Fwd: C-3 Info

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Subject: Fwd: C-3 Info
From: wlminer@pbsac04.isp.PacBell.COM (Miner, Bill L (wlminer))
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:44:00 -0800
Tom  - N6BT  - Force 12,

I have observed your insulting remarks toward fellow hams on the local DX 
packet spotting network and now I see you issuing flames on the internet.  I 
don't recall ever seeing any other antenna or equipment manufacture act in 
this manner.

Let me assure you that no matter what "efficiency figures" you publish in 
your ads,  no matter how many "track tests" you have performed and no matter 
how many more POP Rivets you many add to your products,  I for one will 
NEVER purchase any Force 12 product and I advise all my friends to do the 

73,  Bill - WG6H
From: force12
To: Tony Brock-Fisher; owner-towertalk; towertalk
Subject: Re:  Fwd: C-3 Info
To: <>
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 1997 7:24PM

>Dear folks:

>Interesting how this gentleman was apparently waiting for a chance to 
>this subject. I did anticipate that, of course - in fact, I was told
>because of some history in this area. However, I did choose to make a
>reply to Mr. Soper. I will make one in regards to Mr.Tony Brock-Fisher.

>It is nice you have so many hard-felt opinions. You sure like to create
>to talk about, whether they are relevant or not. I believe your first
>might well characterize your entire reply.

>Your comments about the original poster not mentioning the antenna being
>specifically used for a DXpedition is a bit odd. Don't recall Mr. Soper
>that at all and neither did I. It happens to perform that task that very
>though. Your comment in the same paragraph regarding "low height, near or
>water, the longer boom length of other antennas would not be effective" is
>correct either. I think almost everyone knows this.

>Longer booms usually imply more gain and if the (Yagi) antenna can't be 
>high, then more gain is a great alternative. The increase will cause 
>lobe compression (compared to an antenna of less gain) and emit more energy
>lower angles, which is what we usually are searching for. Utilizing a
>track test site verifies this situation - even the software will show the
>improvement on a comparison, with a rectangular graph being a good tool for

>That's all. Have other things to do, like figuring out how to find true
>I'll check tonight to see if the North Star is still in the right position

>Hope all you fellows make it through the VK0 pile-ups. It might be tough on
>low bands.

          73, Tom, N6BT
          Force 12 Antennas and Systems

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