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Subject: [TowerTalk] phillistran guy wires
From: (Fred Hopengarten)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 21:43:08 EST
OK -- time to let out my little secret.  THINK REAL HARD about where you
are going to put your Phillystran.  Then go to your local automobile
parts store and buy fuel line hose or a size to fit neatly over your
Phillystran.  Purchase 25 feet or so, which should get you through most
trees, and slide it on.  Fuel line hose has fiber glass in it and is
HIGHLY resistant to abrasion.  Keep it in place with tie  wraps, tape,
string to prevent it from slipping down (note that this precaution need
only be on the DOWN side of the fuel line hose).

There you have it.  No splices. Solid Philly. Real easy.  It also comes
in black and will be virtually invisible.  I have a length on one guy,
and, unless I take out binoculars, I can't even find the hose when I'm
looking for it -- and I know where it is.

Fred Hopengarten, K1VR
Six Willarch Road; Lincoln, MA 01773-5105
617/259-0088; e-mail: or

On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 16:44:26 -0500 AA1K jon zaimes <>
>>K1VR wrote:
>>However, now that you've asked, unlike steel, which will wear away a 
>>branch; a tree branch will wear away Phillystran.  Should this 
>happen, no
>>need to buy a whole new guy.  Splice, using two bails, and you'll be
>Anyone see any problems with using Phillystran for two guys, and steel
>(broken with insulators or continuous, no insulators) for the third, 
>such as
>where only one of three guys is in, near or through trees? All guys 
>would be
>tensioned the same of course.
>Would Philly tend to stretch more than the steel, thus requiring more
>frequent re-checking of the tensioning? If so does new Philly stretch 
>for a
>time and then stop or does it stretch to some degree over the life of 
>73/jon AA1K

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