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[TowerTalk] An Engineering Question

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Subject: [TowerTalk] An Engineering Question
From: (Bill Hinkle)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 22:42:00 PST
I take the 2 vertical broken lines to be the guy anchor. The lines on a
45 degree angle to be the back stay. The single vertical lines go to the
ground and are anchored into concrete. It will help the elevated anchors
become more ridged and tend not to bend. Sounds right to me. Did I miss
something in what follows?
                                             Bill, KB3AUG
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997 01:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (Stan
Griffiths) writes:
>>Don't like that idea?  Take a good look at how the power company guys
>>poles in restricted areas:      ||\   
>>                              ||  \   
>>                      ||    \
>>                      ||      \
>>                      ||-------|
>>                      ||         |
>>                      ||         |
>>Yes, the ascii-art is lousy ... and not to scale, but the idea still
>>Hope this helps ... and by all means, engineer the solution, don't 
>>or guess it.
>>Rick, WB3EXR
>I hate to disagree with you Rick, but as your diagram (pretty good,
>actually) clearly shows, the power company does NOT use elevated guy 
>The mechanics of what the power company does are quite different than 
>most hams want to do with elevated guy posts.  For example, the power
>company experiences no forces tending to rotate the guy post base in 
>ground.  Guy tension does not tend to make the post tip toward the 
>tower in
>the power company example as it will in the elevated guy post example. 
> I
>have NEVER seen a ham tower guyed as in the example you have drawn 
>with a
>"guy post" positioned horizontally and the guy wire entering the 
>vertically.  I believe the horizontal forces presented to the tower by 
>horizontal post might bend it.  It works for the power company because 
>use wooden poles instead of steel towers and they can withstand a LOT 
>horizontal pressure without failure.  I have never seen the power 
>use this technique on any of their steel towers.
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