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Subject: [TowerTalk] 80 meter wire beam
From: k1ttt@berkshire.net (David Robbins)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 00:24:49 +0000
i have one based on the on4un two loop reversable design.  it
uses a 1/4 wave feed line to the inverted v element with a 
capacitor at the end... transform the capacitor through the
1/4 wave and you are really inductively loading the reflector
to make it longer.  

check out:
http://www.berkshire.net/~robbins/technote/80mbeam.html
for my plan.

leewells@lexmark.com wrote:
> 
> I'm considering putting up an 80m, reversible wire beam, and
> I'd like to get any thoughts and comments you may have.
> 
> My starting point is the design in ON4UN's book where he uses
> 2 inverted V elements and then capacitively loads one element
> as a director using a piece of coax.  The dimensions shown in
> the book say 67+ feet on each side of the V, but through the text
> it talks about a little over 65 feet????
> 
> So here's where I'm headed.  2 Inverted Vee elements, 120 degree
> angle between the legs.  Spaced 40 feet apart at a height of 67
> feet.  Design frequency is 3.84 MHz, optimizing for max gain.  I've
> been using NEC2, and here's the data I've come up with.
> 
> leg length      max gain        Director Load           Input impedance
> -----------     --------        -------------           ---------------
> 60 feet         8.61 dBi        +50 (inductive)         22.38-j84.48
> 62              8.64            0                       24.84-j38.11
> 63.5            8.64            -60 (capacitive)        30.24+j8.70
> 65              8.64            -100                    32.08+j45.95
> 67              8.64            -150                    33.28+j97.09
> 70              8.63            -250                    39.12+j186.67
> 
> Looks like using the 63.5ft leg length will be best.  The actual
> resonant frequency is about 3.824 Mhz (33+j1.33) with a gain
> of 8.57 dBi.
> 
> Max gain angle is about 45 degrees elevation in all cases.
> 
> I'm planning on using 2 identical pieces of coax that are the correct
> length to provide a capacitive load of 60 ohms going to a switch box.
> Of course I'll switch both ground & center conductor.
> 
> ON4UN shows a little LC circuit in the switch box to match to 50 ohm
> coax.  I'm not sure what my 30.24+j8.70 will look like after about 20
> feet of RG8X (more calculations left to be done), but I could probably
> use a similar LC circuit.
> 
> Any other ideas on matching???  1.6:1 SWR isn't bad to live with, maybe
> a network isn't needed????
> 
> So does all of this data sound reasonable?
> 
> I also noticed that going from a flat-top dipole to the inverted
> Vee elements (120 degrees) looses almost 1 dB of gain (OUCH!).
> 
> 73's
> --Lee - KT4ZX
> Georgetown, KY
> 
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