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[TowerTalk] Could not believe my eyes <--Part II

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Could not believe my eyes <--Part II
From: (spelunk.sueno)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:09:55 -0400
You said you use preformed guy grips.  Might they have been jerked loose by
gusts of wind (first in one direction to loosen the grip, then the opposite
direction, to pull the guy wire out)?  Did you mark the guy wires where they
emerge from the gip?

-Gene Smar AD3F
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From: Lee Buller <>
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Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 9:33 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Could not believe my eyes <--Part II

>At 03:42 AM 6/19/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>One thing you didn't say/ask:  Does he have safety wires on the
>turnbuckles??  If
>>not, they can easily unscrew and loosen the guys!!!!!!  I don't know if he
>does or
>>not, but if the guys are loose, it's another thing to check.
>>[The safety wires go through each turnbuckle TWICE, once at each end and
>>through the fixed end of the guy anchor and through the loop in any guy
>>thus eliminating the possibility that the turnbuckles can turn in any
>>Look at the ARRL handbook for details.]
>>Bill, N3RR
>The answer is yes and no.  To be honest, I have saftey wires on the guy
>point in the front yard.  (yes, I have a very loving wife)  Actually, it is
>cable that loopes through the turnbuckles, the preformed guy grips, and the
>anchor point.  That is put together with two saddle-clamps.
>The two turnbuckles in the backyard do not have this feature, because I did
>not think I would need it.  I know about safty wires too.  I understand the
>significance of the wires, but I didn't think that I would need them.  Here
>is why, and maybe I've been short sighted if not stupid.  The turnbuckes
>Rohn galvanized turnbuckles I latched onto from a Rohn 55 tower
>installation.  They are extremely hard to turn with my hands...and I
>use a open end wrench (I hate crescent wrenches...knuckle busters) to turn
>the turnbuckles.  I could never see then turn and I watched them from
>months.  They never moved.
>Now I understand, for safty sake, I should have safty wires going through
>them.  The plans for this weekend is to do just that.
>But, I have seen cable contract and expand....with the seasons.  I think
>that is the problem....because all my marks are still where they should be.
>why would I admit to all this stupidity?  I don't want others to make the
>same mistake?  How is that for an excuse?
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