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From: aa0cy@nwrain.com (Bob Wanderer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:50:06 -0700
Sometimes common sense and a cool andrational approach works too.
Over a decade ago I lived in an area of northern NJ which had no really
restrictive controls at all (well, you needed building permit and safety 
inspections,
but they were for making $ and valid safety considerations resepctively).
To make a short story long, some homeowners wanted to start an association.
At the first meeting, it appaeared that the primary purpose was Lawn Police
and petty medling. Although I didn't have a tower (and still don't), I was 
concerned
where things might go. Although I try to maintain a low profile, I decided I 
had to
get involved, so I got up and said something to the effect of, "well, you can 
start
this organization and gig me for my grass being a quarter of an inch too long, 
but
then I'm going to call the police the minute after the 10PM noise laws [county
ordinance] on Saturday night go into effect and your teenagers are still 
playing 
their music at their party too loud. If you poke your nose where it doesn't 
belong,
don't be surprised if someone tries to cut it off." Anyway, the prime mover 
behind
this initiative had second thoughts and the whole thing died stillborn.

Now, could we get back to towers and associated stuff?

Thanks & 73,
Bob AA0CY

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From:  David L. Thompson[SMTP:thompson@mindspring.com]
Sent:  Wednesday, June 24, 1998 4:50 AM
To:  towertalk@contesting.com
Subject:  Re: [TowerTalk] 


Tom K5RC/7 said:
>
>The problem with homeowner's associations, architectural control
>committees and those who administer covenants is that they are often
volunteer >do-gooders, small time politicians and folks who don't have a
life. They are >extremely vocal but haven't a clue about how to bring about
positive change >and don't know how to reach consensus on anything.

Boy is this ever true.  Ask fellow towertalker W5BA in Houston.  He has
tried for two years to put up his tower and beams.  There are no zonings or
even subdivision restrictions against but the architectural committee has
stopped him as they dont believe a tower fits in or some such nonsense.

A subdivision near me tried to re-instate their CC&R's and were going to ask
all hams to take down their towers....this was stopped by cooler heads
and the CC&R's now leave out coverage for towers, TV, and satellite antennas.

Attorney and famed contester K4BAI say CC&R's run out after 20 years.  If
this is true this will open up many subdivisions to us again!

Dave K4JRB     


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