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w8ji.tom@MCIONE.com wrote: 
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>IMO, any worry about such minor "loss" is silly when compared to the
>inconvenience. This is especially true since people never even bother
>adding five or ten 120 foot wires on the ground below the antenna even
>though that causes much greater improvement in field strength than any
>change caused by making the dipole "flat" or "Vee'd".
>
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Tom --
Can you quantify this effect?  How many db could one expect to improve
a dipole over poor or over good ground?  Are there any references to 
this effect?
Do you place the wires in parallel with the dipole, or radially around
your towers/supports?  Does it matter?
Thanks.  Sounds like an easy, inexpensive way to get some signal 
improvement.
Tom - N1MM
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