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[TowerTalk] Heliax or RFS vs LMR: Tech points and best pricing availabl

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Heliax or RFS vs LMR: Tech points and best pricing available
From: (Phil Clements)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:06:01 -0500
Please post the power ratings on LMR vs Heliax @ 1.8 and 30 mhz.
This data is nearly impossible to find, and usually not included in QST and
CQ ads.

Many thanks!
Phil, K5PC

>Hi Roy and Tower Talkers,                  Re: [TowerTalk] 9913F, etc
>   I don't want this to appear as a commercial, even though that is allowable 
>if also informative to TT'rs.  I mainly have to jump in when information 
>about the best deal known to the writer is higher than my standard pricing 
>has been.  No fault of the writer as I don't run ads about my prices on 
>Heliax, RFS and LMR, other than LMR 400.
>   You mention $ 1.85/ ft for 1/2" RFS.  That IS a good price.  DAVIS RF Co. 
>has been selling it, and its Heliax equal, for $ 1.79 for quite some time.  
>connectors:  N males for both are $ 24.00, same as your source, and a damn 
>good price.  This is only time I've heard of an equal price to us on any such 
>related parts. 
> We prefer to sell Heliax (vs RFS Cablewave) only because we can get same day 
>shipment even with Andrew Licensed tech installers putting the connectors on 
>to preserve the warranty.  RFS may take a few days. Otherwise I have no 
>druthers about construction and electrics between the two.
>   LMR (Times Cable) has served many hams very well for their needs at a much 
>lower cost.  LMR 600 is the 1/2" equal to LDF4-50A, 1/2" Heliax or FLC-50J 
>LMR 600 we sell for .98/ft vs. the above $1.79 for Heliax or RFS.  Here's the 
>rub:  it seems that most interest on TT is for HF use of these cables.  
>LMR600  attenuation, below 30 MHz is quite comparable to Heliax and RFS.  If 
>one is into real long lengths, or "splittin the hairs of tenths of a dB", 
>then Heliax or RFS makes a difference.  Otherwise, Heliax and RFS have high 
>tower, commercial, mechanical strengths and advantages that LMR is not as 
>worthy.  However, again, many hams buy and quite successfuly utilize LMR for 
>long term results.  We sell all three: Heliax, RFS and LMR and have no 
>business motive to sell one vs. the other, other than better service, i.e. 
>immediate delivery on connectorized Heliax and LMR, whereas RFS is a few 
>days.  If your talkin, say, 1/2" Heliax or RFS  vs  LMR 600 at VHF through 
>Microwave, you will see distinct attenuation advantages of Heliax or RFS vs. 
>LMR600.  So, if you want to come as close in attenuation, say at 2 GHz to the 
>Heliax or RFS 1/2" attenuation rates, the closest you get is with the same 
>LMR 600 but you're .55 dB/100 ft lower than Heliax or RFS.  This can be a 
>significant factor commercially and ham where low power and long runs are 
>prevalent.   The next step up in LMR would be LMR 1200, a 1.20 " OD cable, 
>that would put you .527 dB (all these #''s are nominal) better and my price 
>would be $ 3.39 per foot!!  High but very low as he market goes.   
>Note:  our site price on RFS connectors is wrong.  Revision to the site of 
>this and other new data will occur within the next 3-04 weeks.
>Thanks, I couldn't sit here thinking that some TTAlkers don't know about our 
>price as an "alternate source".    Also, I hope the tech comparatives 
>help/interest some folks.    Cheers, Steve Davis,  K1PEK   DAVIS RF Co.
>DAVIS RF Co., commercial wire and cable, custom cable design.  Discounts to 
>hams.  Heliax, LMR, RFS, Belden, BURY-FLEX Tm.  Various aerial wiring; 
>transmission lines, insulators, baluns, RF connectors and Dacron rope.  
> .  1-800-328-4773, (For all RF hardline related items, please 
>ask for Steve Davis)   Thank you!
>"The Triad":  Davis RF Co.; Orion Wire Corp.; and The Wire Man, Inc.:  
>Variegated expertise; resources and buying power yielding numerous quality 
>products at highly competitive pricing.
>In a message dated 8/29/99 2:00:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> writes:
><< i'll spend the money for 1/2" hardline. Celwave is the best
> deal going these days, as far as i've heard, with 1/2" @ $1.85 for foot and
> $24.00 connectors. >>
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