Try feeding that 160 meter inverted el at the end (hi-Z) against ground
on eighty meters. Avoids a lot of the 1/4 wave conundrums and has a
pattern much like a hemisphere. I used up 63 feet and out 70 feet with
good luck on 80 meters. Since you have to use a tuner/matching
arrangement of some kind any way, it covers the entire 80/75 band. The
high current is up there around the bend.
Put it on a model and see how it compares to a 60' inverted vee at a
takeoff of 5 & 10 degrees.
Sounds like you have both of them up there. You could do some a/b
comparisons on 80 meter DX.
Apex, NC, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "alsopb" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:12 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Quest for better
> For years I have settled for an 80M dipole 60' up.
> My particular interest is to target EU. According to YT arrival angle
> data, most of the action is in the 12 to 20 degree range and also in
> the 2 to 8 degree range.
> I've been through a slew of calculations in EZNEC and found it very
> difficult to make much improvement using vertical type antennas. It
> appears that over average type ground, one needs at least 3 phased
> verticals to equal this crummy dipole. I guess it is the ground
> reflection effect that the dipole benefits from which is hard to
> overcome. It seems that one would be better off trying to raise the
> dipole to 100'+ than mess around with vertical arrays. It appears
> that the cost could actually be lower. Alternatively, a two-wire
> horizontal array might be a better bet. One could almost certainly
> pick up 2-3 db even with a sloppy wire implementation.
> I really wonder how the 4 sq arrays achieve the benefits guys claim
> for them. Alternatively, the YTAD arrival angles can't be the sole
> measure for design.
> On another issue, trying to lower the angle of radiation from a 160M
> inverted L. I did a bunch of sensitivity studies from 40' vertical
> wire height to 110' vertical wire heights. This managed to lower the
> lobe only 2 degrees. Conclusion: Messing around with the height of
> the vertical radiator won't help much. So what's left? Here
> horizontal wire choices are nil.
> It seems that on these lower frequency bands, one quickly hits a wall
> and obtaining significant improvments requires draconian efforts.
> Then there is the other solution to stronger signals some guys
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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