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[TowerTalk] Tennadyne T7 DB Gain Question

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Tennadyne T7 DB Gain Question
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:08:43 -0600

I feel that your third paragraph is misleading and needs 
further clarification.  Specifically, dBi = dBd + 2.18 dB in

Over ground, ANY horizontally polarized antenna will pick 
up 5 to 6 dB GROUND  REFLECTION GAIN (6 dB over 
"perfect ground") which has absolutely NOTHING to do 
with the gain characteristics of the antenna.

This ground reflection gain is at the peak of the first lobe.
The peak angle depends of course on height above ground
in wavelengths.

Tom N4KG

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001  "Bill Hider" <> writes:
> Joe,
> dBd is "gain over a dipole".
> "Real gain", as you call it, has no meaning.  Each person defines 
> "real gain" in their own terms.
> For horizontal antennas, you would ADD approximately 7 - 7.5 dB to 
> the dBd figure to get dBi, the gain over an isotropic source at the
> height.
> There is an excellent discussion on this subject in the Force12 
> catalog> which is downloadable from their website:
> see:
> Bill, N3RR
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> []On Behalf Of
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:02 PM
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> Subject: [TowerTalk] Tennadyne T7 DB Gain Question
> I am looking to replace my Hygain DB10/15 Dualband beam with a
> Tennadyne T7 18-33 MHZ log.  It would be located under my Hygain
> 204BA (20 Meter Monobander).
> On the Tennadyne website it give the gain figure as
> "6.2 dBd"?  I am not sure what dBd is?  Should I subtract 3 from
> the figure to get the real DB gain?
> Anyone have this antenna and have a comment about it?
> Thanks
> Joe K0BX

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