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[TowerTalk] guy rod angle

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Subject: [TowerTalk] guy rod angle
From: (Michael Rauh)
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:25:30 -0400
Jerry, Stan, Dave, Tom,

I agree with Jerry and Stan - the angle is probably not critical.  Rohn 
presents the angle to 0.1 degree in their guyed tower drawings.  This seems 
impossibly precise to me - there is probably way more sag or bow in the guy 
anchor than that.

I also suspect that Dave is correct when he suggests taking the vector sum 
of the loads on the guys when the tower is at its rated wind load to find 
the guy rod angle.

In thinking about this problem I realized I don't know how to calculate the 
individual loads on each guy wire.  I use a rigid body model for the tower 
that will give the total load on the guys, but won't tell me how the guys 
share the load, at least as far as I can see.  To figure out the load on 
each individual guy, I think I will need to consider how the tower deflects 
under load.

Consider a tower with two sets of guys and an antenna on top.  I could start 
by assuming the tower is fixed at the top and the base.  I calculate the 
wind load and how the tower will deflect under that load.  Draw a curve, 
deflection vs. load.  Then assume the lower guy is attached at mid-point, 
draw a curve of elongation vs. load.  The load on the second guy is where 
the curves meet.  The reminder of the load on the tower, including the 
antenna load, is absorbed by the top guy.

But wait!  The top guy elongates under load too, relieving the load on the 
bottom guy.  So I will have to set up a system of simultaneous equations in 
order to get the loads on each guy.  I will need equations for the 
elongation of the top guy, the bottom guy, the deflection (bowing) and the 
pivoting of the tower.  If the tower has a pivot base that is all I need, 
but if the base is cast in concrete I might need an equation to account for 
the force needed to tilt the tower as the guys elongate.

Does that sound right?  Do you know of any references where this kind of 
problem has been worked out?  I know Kurt Andress has found guy loads using 
a finite element program.  I need to understand the principles involved 
before I resort to a program!

I think it would be very cool to know how to find the loads on the 
individual guy wires in a tower system.

Best Regards,

Mike Rauh, NV7X

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