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Subject: [TowerTalk] RF Ground
From: n4kg@juno.com (n4kg@juno.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 06:50:03 -0600
I expect there is considerable difference between
concrete and structural steel roofs and conventional
wooden / shingle home roofs.  Unfortunately, 
George did not specify which type he had.

Tom  N4KG

On Thu, 06 Dec 2001  VR2BrettGraham <vr2bg@harts.org.hk> writes:
> 
> George, G-something I presume, wrote:
> 
> >I am going to mount a short 8' high tower on the roof (concrete) of 
> a 14
> >floor block of flats. On this will eventually mount some sort of 
> small
> >compact beam and rotator. In the interim I wish to mount a 
> vertical. I don't
> >believe that verticals don't need radials so I am thinking of 
> making a RF
> >ground/radial on the roof.
> 
> A 2.4m roof tower will be too short for your final antenna, unless 
> you are
> thinking of 50 or 70 Mc.  Even at more than twice that height, I 
> find too much
> interaction with the roof at 14 Mc with a tribander.
> 
> But using that 2.4m roof tower to support the base of a vertical, 
> that's 
> different.
> You will find that is high enough up that the typical 1/4-wave HF 
> radiator will
> start to show signs of reasonable decoupling from the roof with 
> several
> tuned & elevated radials.
> 
> A typical 1/4-wave HF radiator mounted on that tower, but working 
> against
> radials of any sort just on the roof itself, will leave much to be 
> desired due
> to the 2.4m distance between the radials & the feedpoint.  Don't 
> bother.
> 
> Although I prefer to go elevated, it sounds like you'd be better 
> binning the
> tower idea completely if you can't go higher, use a bucket of 
> concrete for the
> base of the vertical, then lay as much of whatever wire you can as a
> non-reasonant radial system right on the roof & stick with that.
> 
> That's what I've learned in the past 15 years trying to put antennas 
> on the
> roofs of concrete buildings here.
> 
> 73, VR2BrettGraham
> 
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