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[TowerTalk] Mast needed in Detroit/Chicago area

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Mast needed in Detroit/Chicago area
From: (Frank W8HO)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:12:18 -0500
Hi Steve,

Tnx for putting thru the post even though I blew the setting on the from 
tab.  I usually use the setting so my Eudora program automatically 
filters them into the Ham Stuff basket, rather than the other business, and 
personal things I get.

To reply to your questions:  I was thinking Chrom-moly because that is what 
I have always heard is the strongest and lasts the longest.

The application is to top the 89 foot crank up by U S Tower.  At the top 
when nested the tower is about 27 feet I believe.  I plan to tilt it over 
for antenna installation and maintenance.

Antennas to be installed are a German Antenna a little larger than the C31 
by Force 12, a dual band 17/12 meter antenna also similar to the Force 12 
version, but heavier, and finally an M2 2 element 40 meter beam.  I do not 
know the exact weights just yet except on the M2 which is their published 

I listed Chrom-moly first then put or similar because I figure with the 
torque of side bending when I do antenna maintenance, and the heavy winds 
here--We live on Lake Huron and I recently lost a tower that was 
conservatively loaded when our winds spiked to over 90mph.

I would certainly love to save some money if there is an alternative that 
would be safe and last an anticipated 20 years.

Thanks again, and I appreciate any recommendations u may make.

73 de Frank W8HO

By the way:  at the end of my conversation with the local dealer, he 
revealed that all round stock is special order and would be best ordered 
elsewhere--though he didn't know where.

At 11:00 AM 1/10/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>In a message dated 1/10/02 6:43:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> writes:
> > I am in need of a top quality mast for a tower installation.  I purchased
> >  the tower from the widow of a SK.  He only had a short (approx 10 foot)
> >  mast on the Tower, yet it has a full mast raising fixture installed.  I
> >  would like to replace this mast with a 20 foot long Chrom-Moly or similar.
>     First things first. Why do you think you need a chromoly mast ($$$)? 
> Most
>hams who think they need chromoly really don't need to spend that much money
>for a mast.
>     What's your county windspeed rating? What's your proposed antenna
>installation? What kind of tower is it?
> >
> >  Anyone out there know of a steel tubing dealer in the Detroit area, or as
> >  second choice Chicago area.  I live 110 miles north of Detroit and would
> >  like to keep my shipping costs down.
> >
> >  An additional question, how do I communicate the Ham language of a 2"
> >  1/4" wall Chrom-Moly mast (or whatever the next step down would be) into
> >  the professional language that these tubing manufacturers use?  I 
> called a
> >  local dealer and we could barely understand each other.  He kept wanting
> >  know the application that the tubing would be used for yet he had no idea
> >  what I was talking about when I described the application.
> >
>     Hmm, what you want to buy is tubing with the necessary yield strength 
> for
>your application - I don't know why the person you were talking to didn't get
>the picture (Maybe he/she didn't know much. They didn't know what a 2" OD
>1/4" wall chromoly mast was? I'd talk to someone else that knows what they're
>talking about.). My MARC (Mast, Antenna, and Rotator Calculator) program does
>mast calcs and gives you the needed yield strength required (available from
><A HREF="";></A>). Typical
>ham HF stacks and moderate winds up to 80MPH or so will require something
>like 60,000 psi yield strength which corresponds to an SAE 1026 or 1027
>carbon alloy steel which most tubing suppliers seem to stock.
>Steve    K7LXC
>Tower Tech

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