The problem with the HF2V and HF6V verticals
is that they are BASE LOADED on 80M which
is the LEAST EFFICIENT method of loading
a short vertical.
A good ground system does NOT make up for this deficiency.
Full Size or Top Loaded verticals are still MUCH more effective.
SOME top loading can be added to the HF2V but it is limited
by the matching range on 40M. I doubt that top loading can
be used with the HF6V without affecting operation on the high bands.
Tom N4KG
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 "Randall Williamson" <ac7nj@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> Kelly,
> I have a butternut HF6Vx I mounted it in the ground and still needed
> radials for 40 and 80. Lets face it Verticals need radials. I have
> now
> moved it to the roof with tuned elevated radials (not as many just
> (5) 4
> from twin TV leed and 1 #14 copper for 80M) and it works well but I
> think you can't have too many radials I also bonded the base to the
> metal roof on the patio and 3 foot #4 copper wire and it decoupled
> it a
> little but improved 80M so I left it that way
>
> Randy
> AC7NJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-towertalk@contesting.com
> [mailto:owner-towertalk@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:11 AM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] HF6V - any help for 80
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have an HF6V, which I realize, despite all Butternut's
> protestations
> to
> the contrary, is really just a base-loaded vertical on 80. It's
> ground-mounted.
>
> It SUCKS on 80! And I have a not bad ground system under it. I know
> that
> improving the ground system will help somewhat, but I'm afraid the
> difference won't be enough. It will elevate it from being a
> ABSOLUTELY
> AWFUL
> 80 meter antenna to being merely a NOT QUITE ABSOLUTELY AWFUL 80
> meter
> antenna. Either way, it's still awful. (Sorry for all these
> technical
> terms.)
>
> (How bad is it? Let's just say that I have trouble being heard by
> W0AIH.)
>
> Has anyone compared a ground-mounted HF6V to one that is elevated
> with
> elevated radials?
>
> Or does anyone have any other ideas, short of discounting the HF6V
> as an
> 80-meter antenna altogether and buying a W1XT?
>
> 73,kelly
> ve4xt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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