> W8JI wrote:
> >In my experience models tend to fall in line more on 40 meters and up
> >with real-world results, while on 160 results vary the most.
> N4ZR wrote:
> >I believe that most models - certainly prop models like VOACAP --
> that they are not accurate below 2 MHz. I suspect the same is true
> for NEC-2 and 4. Does anyone know for sure?
> Propagation on the low bands is not completely described by
> models, especially below 2 MHz.
I'd like to add something we almost always forget. Models are no
substitute for real world results.
The REASON we have models is the actual system is too complex to
consider. While the models are certainly very good in some aspects,
they always miss some things.
For example, our antenna modelling programs assume the earth is a
perfectly homogeneous media and represent the earth as a single
boundary layer with certain characteristics. The programs we often
use do not even consider groundwave, and so show zero radiation at
zero angles and blend the pattern to that point.
There is no possible way to get everything into the model, and we are
often not skilled enough or informed enough to know what we are
On the other side, they are much closer than we could ever do
longhand as long as we stay away from limits where they fall apart.
We have to know the limits of models, just like we have to know the
limits of measurements. None are perfect, and many are not even
close. (ie the gain of the antenna is given as 13.65dB but the
absolute accuracy of the measurement method and instruments is 2dB.
Why not say "somewhere around 13 dB"?)
This would especially be true with things heavily dependent on the
ionosphere, real earth, or any other "soup" of varying
characteristics, where we might be lucky to get within ten dB. Models
give you direction, not absolute answers.73, Tom W8JI