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Subject: [Towertalk] Need Antenna Advice!
From: n4kg@juno.com (n4kg@juno.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:10:25 -0600
For those who want better F/B on 10M with the SteppIR
3L Yagi, a separate 10M reflector could also be added 
which I expect would not degrade performance on the 
lower bands. That is a common practice on other tribanders 
(A4S, TH6, TH7, etc).

Tom  N4KG

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002  Joe Reisert <jreisert@jlc.net> writes:
> Steve,
> 
> I didn't look at the Fludid Motion specs. but I know the antenna is 
> not 
> optimum on 6 meters and I doubt they make that claim. If you check 
> the 
> literature, you will see that they have an optional add on reflector 
> and 
> director for 6 meters to enhance performance on that band.
> 
> Joe, W1JR
> 
> 
> At 03:39 PM 9/13/2002 -0700, Steve Katz wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > > >The StepIR is an optimized 3L beam AT
> > > >ALL FREQUENCIES.
> > >
> > > That depends on how you define the word "optimized," eh?  I 
> don't call
> > > fixed
> > > element locations on the boom optimized on more than one band.
> > >
> > > Mark, N5OT
> > >
> >         [Steve Katz]  Mark, I have to agree.  Unless this antenna 
> defies all
> >the modeling programs, using a 16' boom and fixed element locations 
> provided
> >in the SteppIR manual, and modeling using NEC, if I adjust the 
> element
> >lengths in 1" increments indefinitely, to try every combination of 
> element
> >lengths there is from 10" to 432" per element using (N+1...) 
> algorithms, I
> >cannot come up with any combination that provides more than about 
> 6dB F/B on
> >six meters, for example.  The original claims for F/B on "all 
> bands" is
> >"20-50 dB, depending on frequency" for the 3L model, but I can't 
> use any
> >modeling integers that indicate that, at any element lengths or any 
> height
> >above ground.  If the inventor/manufacturer can provide us with 
> some new
> >data on this matter, I'd love to receive it!   Better still, I'd 
> like to
> >know what the exact element lengths are to provide max F/B on each 
> band,
> >based on the 16' boom length and fixed element spacing.  Then I can 
> scale it
> >1:10 and stick the model in our RF anechoic chamber here at the 
> lab, and
> >take actual (empirical) data.  I'll be happy to provide the test 
> report in
> >this forum, if I can get the data to make the model. -WB2WIK/6
> >
> >
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