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Subject: [TowerTalk] Guy Breakers
From: n4kg@juno.com (n4kg@juno.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:05:58 -0600
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From: N4KG@juno.com
To: ve6yc@home.com,TOWERTALK@CONTESTING.COM
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:46:37 -0600
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guy Breakers

Guy Insulator Placement   de   N4KG

The following lengths between insulators have 
resonances between the conventional bands 
(which places their resonancesin the WARC bands :-) 
-  27, 40, 58, and 76 ft.  (per ARRL  Antenna Book)

You may want to make your wires slightly shorter 
to compensate for the capacitive end loading of the 
loops through the insulators.

You need to place the first insulator as close to the
tower as possible to prevent coupling to continuous
wire from one insulator, through the tower, to another
insulator.

For the first insulated section, I like to use a short
piece of 10 to 12 ft between insulators.  This length
is substantially less than 1/2 wavelength (WL) on
10M and will therefore be nearly invisible on all frequencies
below 28 MHz.  For even better isolation, use two or three
10-12 ft sections before going to longer spans.

de  Tom  N4KG


There is NO SUCH THING as a NON-resonant length of wire.

The lengths listed in the ARRL Antenna Books are typically
resonant in-between the conventional amateur bands.  For
example 27 ft which falls between 15 and 20 M but IS self
resonant on 17M, or 40 ft which is between 20 and 30 M
but is ONE FULL WL on 12M, or 56 ft which is ONE FULL
WL on 17M.

Another point which many people miss is that the resonance
is LOWERED by a factor of 2 when connected to the tower.
This is because you have continuity from the first insulator,
through the tower, to the first insulator on another guy.

A friend placed his first insulators 10 ft out on his guys which
were 10 ft below a tribander.  He commented that the antenna
played very well on 10 and 20 but seemed to be lacking 'punch'
on 15M.  I suggested that his guys formed a 15M DIRECTOR
10 ft BELOW the DE of this tribander, directing 15M energy 
STRAIGHT DOWN.  (10 + 1 + 10 = 21 ft conductor directly 
below the tribander).

I place my first insulators as close to the tower as possible,
typically 3 to 4 ft, then space insulators 12 ft, 12 ft, 27 ft, 
followed by combinations of 27 or 40 as height demands.
If WARC bands are a concern, then more 12 ft lengths should
be used since 12 ft is resonant above 30 MHz and therefore
'nearly' invisible on ALL HF bands. 

K7GCO has stated that it is necessary to isolate the guys
for roughly the first  1/2 WL on the lowest frequency of 
ALL the antennas on the tower (i.e. lower guys need to
be broken up also, especially if you have side mounts).

The alternatives are Phillystran or Fiberglass.  Phillystran
stretches more than steel or fiberglass which can cause
greater stresses in the tower, especially with long lengths.

Unfortunately, the fiberglass guy manufacturer requires 5000 ft 
minimum orders.  They are willing to split orders for multiple buyers.

Tom  N4KG


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