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Subject: [Towertalk] I need help
From: llindblom@juno.com (llindblom@juno.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:17:59 GMT
To my thoughts NEC is US specific and probably does not apply in PY land.  With 
that said it is advisable to check and see whatever codes apply, just in case.  

W0ETC

---------- "Thomas Miller" <ac5tm@bellsouth.net> writes:

From: "Thomas Miller" <ac5tm@bellsouth.net>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>, "VR2BrettGraham" <vr2bg@harts.org.hk>
Subject: Re: [Towertalk] I need help
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:13:28 -0800

It is against the NEC to run anything other than elevator cables in the
elevator shaft.  This is to prevent fires and other "life saftey" issues.
There must some sort of plumbing chase to get all the
water/sewerage/electrical/telephone to the apts.  There usally is space to
run in this  chase but not usally the easiest to find.  Large buildings have
electrtical closets with nipples thru the floor.  If you do make you own
holes make sure they are filled with fire retardent material to prevent
spreading fires.  Some codes will require that wires that are not fire rated
be run in conduit.  Do not risk lives for your hobby.  Follow the codes
Tom


----- Original Message -----
From: "VR2BrettGraham" <vr2bg@harts.org.hk>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Towertalk] I need help


> After removing the cables from the lift shaft, I would suggest PY4RO check
into
> the lift company's claim - if the building management allowed him to run
them
> there to begin with, there may be an element of "just say no" which may be
> rearing its ugly head here.
>
> Quite a few stations in blocks of flats here & cables down the lift shaft
> was not
> a problem at VS6DX's QTH, despite well-intentioned British colonial
building
> laws & regulations, plus the usual uncooperative lift contractors,
building
> management & the like.
>
> Cables down the outside of the building can be problematic, but a few QTHs
ago
> I had 12 floors worth of feeders carefully lowered down the _back_ of the
> building &
> run between the wall of the building & external pipes, therefore keeping
them
> pretty much in place.  Done right, nothing for anyone to complain about &
this
> again was a rented flat with a typical HK building management company.
>
> It should be noted that in all instances, steps were taken - if
necessary -
> to make
> sure there was no TVI or anything else to give anyone an excuse to say no.
>
> If there is no other way than the staircase, then I would suggest doing as
> XX9KA did - everything in a conduit in one corner, straight down.
Admittedly a
> bit of work, but some PVC pipe & a little concrete is probably cheaper
than
> moving
> flat.
>
> 73, VR2BrettGraham
>
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