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Subject: [Towertalk] Pouring base of tower
From: Tom Sessions" <k4rv@mindspring.com (Tom Sessions)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:02:05 -0000
Nope,  Jim, not so.  I asked a true supplier of ready mix concrete.   The
professional supplier of concrete tells me not to worry about this epoxy.
You say otherwise. Who is correct?

Thanks/73
Tom K4RV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "Tom Sessions" <k4rv@mindspring.com>
Cc: "TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 21:14
Subject: Re: [Towertalk] Pouring base of tower


> Tom, sounds to me like you made the error of asking a "Home Center"
> person for help... they are only familiar with what they sell and this
> is nto a Home Depot type item...
>
> Go to your telephone book - yellow pages - find concrete additives -
> companies that distribute curing compounds, form release agents or
> bonding agents will know what you need... they typically deal with the
> commercial construction trade and not those who watch Home Time...
>
> The reason I have not cited any brand names is simple - I do not wish to
> favour oe over another or give the impression that one will wrok where
> another will not - there are many competitors in the business find a
> distributor and he will sell the line he poromotes and inventories...
>
> OR use a search engine like Google and type in something like:
>
> construction epoxy hometown
>
> (where hometown is a major metropolitan area near you likely to have a
> wholesaler of construction products)
>
> Again, this is not a hardware store or home center type item - it is
> normally used in commercial construction - and believe me there will be
> data sheets so you know how to use it properly!  Think about the
> liability of incorrectly using a product on a high rise building :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, K4OJ
>
>
>
>
> Tom Sessions wrote:
>
> >    Where can the below mentioned epoxies be obtained?  What brand or
> >product do I ask for when I get there?  Is there a website with info for
the
> >epoxies?  Maybe I just missed it, but I've been reading about these
epoxies
> >here on this reflector and have found no specifics on what the product
is-
> >just a reference to "epoxy".
> >
> >Unfortunately??, my local concrete supplier had no idea why epoxy was
> >necessary.  His advice this morning was to simply just pour a new batch
of
> >concrete any ole' time over the old.   So which is correct- join two
> >separate pours with epoxy- or not?
> >
> >Thanks/73
> >Tom K4RV
> >
> >
> >
> >From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
> >To: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <k2av@contesting.com>
> >Cc: <K7LXC@aol.com>; "TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 05:34
> >Subject: Re: [Towertalk] Pouring base of tower
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>...ANOTHER COMMERCIAL SITUATION WHERE MULTIPLE PIECES OF CONCRETE ARE
> >>USED IS PILINGS
> >>
> >>There are pilings made out of reinforced condrete driving into the
> >>ground which end up supporting commercial structures....
> >>
> >>Sometimes these pilings have to go very deep before they hit bedrock and
> >>become solid enough that the weight of a building will not cause them to
> >>sink and the building fall over....
> >>
> >>These are typicall reinforced concrete sticks.....they are pounded into
> >>the ground like XXX ground rods when they get so low that they run out
> >>of rod and the ability to withstand weight is still ionsufficient they
> >>glus on another one... that's right - with construction epoxy the stick
> >>another one on the end of the embedded XXX(s) ... and if that one ends
> >>up being driven its entire length and they still don't have enought
> >>resistance, on goes another....
> >>
> >>Construction epoxies are not that uncommon anymore - while the
> >>quantities needed for a tower pad of two pour is significant enough to
> >>buy in bulk - freqently used anchoring systems for threded rod used to
> >>anchor the base of a house wall is sold in caulking type tubes for use
> >>with a special gun that handles the two part mix bia two plungers acting
> >>in unison to squeeze out the adhesive and hardener simultaneously when
> >>the handle is squeezed (smaller sized offerings are in double barrle
> >>syringes for "one bolt" emergency operations) - this has becoime cheaper
> >>than the old school method of setting anchor bolts in the wet slab and
> >>then drilling the plate at the bottom of the wall to match....a guy in
> >>the field with the rigth tools can march right down the line drilling
> >>the locations for the "to be eposies" thraded rods....
> >>
> >>As is true of most adhesives - when correctly applied they are actually
> >>stronger than what they hold together!
> >>
> >>73,
> >>
> >>Jim, K4OJ
> >>
> >>
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