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Date: Tue Mar 4 11:40:13 2003
Hello, Doug--

I think you missed the point of the "bleeding hearts."  Their attitude seemed 
to be that it is much more productive to say, "Hey, fellow--this is of really 
poor design and could cause a real world of hurt.  I'll be glad to help you if 
you want," rather than to say, "Hey you dumb s***!  That's the stupidest thing 
I've ever seen!!"

Doug, which would you rather hear when you do someting that's not up to snuff?  
(Like your example of making a poor solder connection, which you characterized 
as "trivial."  I once did a solder repair to a comms system on a Cessna 210 
that--because of a poor design by Cessna--could have caused a serious problem 
if it had failed while the plane was in flight.  Despite the fact that I was as 
careful and professional as possible, I felt nervous about that repair for a 
long time.)

Beating up on people almost never works nearly as well as treating them as if 
they are doing the best they can at the time; after all, they are.  Aren't 
you?  Even when *you* do "dumb things?"

Be gentle.


Jim, W3WV (another bleedng heart)
May enduring peace, and true tolerance and acceptance, prevail in all places 

Jim Wilcox
> I can't believe how many "bleeding heart" hams there are who have come
> to the defense of this guy who has done a "dumb" action with regards to
> guying a 150 ft tower with mobil home tie down anchors.  I have done a few
> dumb things with my towers all due to taking short cuts or rushing.  I do
> not ever want to forget them as they will guide me to being very careful in
> the future.  We are talking about actions that can have an impact on the lives
> of ourselves and others - it is not in the same category as making a mistake
> soldering on a circuit board.  To trivialize this poor construction practice
> is to condone it.  I remember viewing a 100 ft tower on a city lot where the
> ham had wrapped the guy wire just around the tower leg and used only one
> wire rope clip with a very short tail to secure it - that was dumb practice!
> Remember "But for the grace of God there go I."
> Doug
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