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Subject: [TowerTalk] Inverted L Questions
From: Jim Smith <>
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 01:38:40 -0800
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I'm in the process of putting up an inverted L for 160. In the back corner of the lot I'm going to put up 30 ft of very skinny tower. The cross bracing looks like Rohn 25 but the face is only 6.5" The legs are solid. The whole thing is made of aluminum. I have 50 ft of the stuff but 50 ft would put it 20 ft higher than the HV line which runs down the other side of the back lane.

The tower will be insulated from ground and fed at the base. To the top of the tower will be fastened a length of stranded Cu antenna wire which will run along the lot boundary to the top of a 30 ft mast (could dangle down a bit if I need the extra length) at the front corner of the lot, about 120 ft away.

There will be a ground plate (we use plates here, not rods) buried at the base of the tower to which the coax shield will be connected.

The tower will be self supported with maybe a couple of guys such that, if anything bad happens to it, it will fall inside my property.

The 40 and 80 dipoles will be moved to this tower from the 16 ft mast to which they are currently attached.

I have 2 questions

1. How to fasten the stranded wire to the top of the Al tower.

I was thinking of just putting a stainless hose clamp around one of
the tower legs, putting the wire through it and tightening. However, I think the wire would fatigue very quickly and break. Easy enough to get the tower down to fix it but would prefer not to
have to do this every couple of months.

   Another thought was to wrap, say, 10 turns of the antenna wire
   around the tower leg and cover the bottom 5 or so turns with the
   hose clamp.  These are the turns which are furthest from the wire to
   the other mast.  The idea being that the wire could move more freely
   where it meets the tower and thus not be stressed at one particular

Any other ideas?

2. How to deal with radials

Not much room for radials. I can run one about 120 ft along or
under the ground right underneath the flat top. I can maybe mickey
mouse a few more about 20 ft long and that's about it. The fact
that I may have ground losses of 3 dB or so doesn't really trouble
me as almost no matter what I do it will be better than using the
80m dipole on 160. What does bother me is that about the only
sensible place to run the coax feed is right along the 120 ft
radial. I presume, then, that I'll have mucho current on the
outside of the shield and tons of RF in the house and shack.

   I'm proposing to wind a coax choke at the base of the tower and
   another one where the coax enters the house in hopes of suppressing
   this shield current.
   Any comments on the proposed installation would be greatly appreciated.

Lightning isn't an issue here, thank goodness.

73 and TIA for your help. See you (well, those few of you who will be able to hear me) on 160.

Jim Smith VE7FO


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