My wife has said many times At least I Know Where you are at nights". She
had only an inkling of actua; costs of tower. coax and stuff in the ham
room. I can live with what i've spent. NT7Y Earle
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of RICHARD BOYD
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:20 AM
To: email@example.com; Al Williams
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk]Being cheap vs. being frugal
I don't know what K7PUC is referring to -- I must have missed what was said
previously about being cheap. It raised a question in my mind, though.
What if you are at a hamfest and you come across an item you are willing to
offer $500 for. Before you speak, the seller says, "I want $225 for it."
The actual words were, "I can't accept a penny less than $225 for it." Was
I wrong to say, "Sold!"
As far as being "cheap," I think frugality, good common sense regarding
one's resources, and "good stewardship" of one's resources, be they the
dollars in your pocket, the "environment," etc. are virtues. But so is
generosity. Taking frugality too far can be a bad thing.
On the other hand, there are people who take pride in blowing money
wastefully -- hence Mike Tyson being deep in debt about making
multi-millions of dollars -- or, in my opinion, Olympic swimmer Michael
Phelps stating he now plans to buy a second car to go along with the
Cadillac Escalade with counter-rotating wheel covers that he already has.
Phelps is still in the low "millions" of earnings -- compared to Tyson's
haul -- but is putting his feet on the Tyson sliding board. It's not a good
I recall one ham presenting at Dayton about the large amount he had spent
for his tower, neatly broken down item by item, and remember the reaction in
the audience, which was not favorable. Others I know have put in the sweat
equity, gone and taken down towers, scrounged aggressively, "horse traded"
to build their station, and my impression is that that is generally pretty
But, if you can afford to spend $100,000 or more for your super station
antenna farm, more power to you; it's your right to spend your money any way
you want. I sometimes point out that other "men's hobbies" like cars, boats
(yachts), etc. can cost every bit as much, or more, than serious ham radio.
A guy I know spends thousands of dollars a year on hunting trips, each of
which he uses to justify buying a couple new guns at a couple thou. apiece,
lots of new cold weather gear, etc. Ham radio probably compares pretty
favorably, cost-wise, to these other things.
But, it's interesting how others view us. I noticed this with cars. For
some years I drove a relatively expensive car and noticed that I was cut off
in traffic and other rude things relatively often. I switched to a pickup
truck and that seldom happened any more -- and, young women started smiling
and waving and smiling at me more (which I was not going for but did notice
it). Now my pickup is old and beat up and farmers wave at me as I go by,
home improvement guys view me as an equal, and landscapers look at me with
suspicion, as if I'm competition for their bread and butter.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Williams" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] from W0RTT...
> ----- Original Message -----
> > our house was struck by lightning. ... it wiped out all connected
> electronic equipment
> Wow. I guess I would head for his company's beer hall. I have fond
> memory of an hour two viewing the horses and having pretzels while
> trying varieties of Anheuser-Bush beer. I think it was free i.e. cheap.
> Speaking of being cheap, why do some hams pride themselves on being
> cheap. It seems that being eco-friendly and recycling is one thing but
> to take advantage of someone's ignorance of the value is questionable?
> My area, the Puget Sound, gets only a few thunderstorms each year. I
> can't remember any lightning strike within a mile or so in the past
> 50 yrs. Of course it only takes one to do the damage, so that makes it
> a difficult risk-Vs-cost decision. I think that most respondents to
> the tower cost thread didn't include the lightning protection.
> I hope that someone will analyze why so much damage was done--what
> lightning protection was in use at W0RTT?
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more. Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
> any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> TowerTalk mailing list
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