Hmmm... I think I see the problem.
The above sentence is *supposed* to be:
Even tall, unguyed structures tend to fall in on themselves although they
would'nt form a close a knit pile as the guyed tower.
No, it wouldn't form a pile at the bottom. It most likly would not all full
length, but most of it would be laid out in a line. Well, there's only two
letters and one punctuation mark. It was close. <sigh>
Roger Halstead (K8RI, EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
N833R, World's Oldest Debonair (S# CD-2)
I don't know that this statement is true. Unguyed structures tend to lay
flat (kinked, it's true, but the final position is usually laid out). If
you have some analysis that shows otherwise, I'd love to see it (because
this question comes up a lot).
The acelleration of a tall tower tipping over will cause the top half of
to bend back on itself.
This is indeed the case (and, interestingly, it also happens when a pencil
point breaks). It's particularly noticeable on masonry columns
are a good example), as they break into segments on the way down.
they don't collapse in a heap at the bottom, they just flex and break.
That tower has been there for >50 years and only been hit once before (a
I'd sure hate to have the liability of a tower near final approach to any
wire strike, I believe). It's well marked on the charts, and granted,
hard to see in the daytime, but, then, that's why it's on the charts.
are worse hazards near airports. Hills off the end of the runway, stuff
that. Power lines across canyons. All those places where the approach
says "successful go-around unlikely". In the LA Basin, I'd worry more
about hitting another plane or busting some controlled airspace boundary
because you were talking to the wrong controller on the radio and getting
nasty note from the FAA.
Since the tower was there before the airport, there's not much liability
that attaches to its continuing existence. Whether it was a good idea to
build parking lots and industrial space underneath it is another question,
but from the photos I've seen so far, the damage to surrounding structures
is limited (if any). So far, it looks like the engineers did a decent job
(after all, having an airplane fly into your tower is a fairly unlikely
There has been some bickering mentioned about why there weren't strobes on
the tower. (Maybe Clear Channel doesn't want to spend the bucks?)
And, it used to be a LOT easier to see from the air, because it was in the
middle of this huge vacant lot, which sort of stood out as you followed
I5 freeway north or south (the classic IFR (I follow roads) technique).
Personally, I preferred flying a bit farther east (under the controlled
airspace) or west (over the coastline). These days, you'd have to watch
for the Disneyland prohibited airspace (if it's still in force).
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