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Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 57

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 57
From: "C. Dwight Baker" <cdwightbaker@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:12:54 -0500
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Rick, I can't promise you that I have the info, but I do have a bunch of US
Tower stuff, if only I can find it.  Will look tomorrow and let you know.

Dwight  formerly W4IJY

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Today's Topics:

   1. polyphaser (Craig Clark)
   2. Re: Polyphaser coaxial protectors (Martin AA6E)
   3. Re: Polyphaser coaxial protectors (RJD)
   4. Need UST MDPL wiring info (Rick Karlquist)
   5. Taking Apart Aluminum (Lee Buller)
   6. Re: World Class Station Conundrum - help! (Bernard(wtrone))
   7. Re: World Class Station Conundrum - help! (Tim Duffy K3LR)
   8. Re: Idealized low band system designs was Re:     ...Conundrum
      -help! (Tom Rauch)
   9. Re: Need UST MDPL wiring info (KJ6Y@aol.com)
  10. Re: World Class Station Conundrum - help! (Bernard(wtrone))


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:56:26 -0500
From: Craig Clark <jcclark@worldpath.net>
Subject: [TowerTalk] polyphaser
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050216165452.02808db8@mail.worldpath.net>
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>From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 4x1ad
>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:27 PM
>To: towertalk@contesting.com
>Subject: [TowerTalk] Polyphaser coaxial protectors
>
>I'm looking for a shop or dealer in U.S. who sells Polyphaser coaxial
>protectors in very small quantities (5-10pcs).
>Any answer will be appreciated.
>
>73
>Morel
>4X1AD
>4x1ad@iarc.org
>_______________________________________________

try Davis RF

at www.davisrf.com

also look at ICE.

We sell them as does Array Solutions


73, Craig Clark, K1QX

RADIOWARE AND RADIO BOOKSTORE
PO  BOX 209
RINDGE NH 03461
603 899 6957
WWW.RADIO-WARE.COM





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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:11:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Martin AA6E <msembx-aa6e@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Polyphaser coaxial protectors
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Message-ID: <20050216221128.5772.qmail@web81406.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Ham Radio Outlet is another source: http://www.hamradio.com/ .

73, Martin AA6E
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:27:10 +0200
From: "4x1ad" <4x1ad@iarc.org>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Polyphaser coaxial protectors

I'm looking for a shop or dealer in U.S. who sells Polyphaser coaxial 
protectors in very small quantities (5-10pcs).
Any answer will be appreciated.

73
Morel
4X1AD
4x1ad@iarc.org


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:34:44 -0000
From: "RJD" <nj9k@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Polyphaser coaxial protectors
To: <msembx-aa6e@yahoo.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <200502162234.j1GMYWY1003207@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

So is AES, look in their catalog.

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Martin AA6E
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 22:11
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Polyphaser coaxial protectors

Ham Radio Outlet is another source: http://www.hamradio.com/ .

73, Martin AA6E
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:27:10 +0200
From: "4x1ad" <4x1ad@iarc.org>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Polyphaser coaxial protectors

I'm looking for a shop or dealer in U.S. who sells Polyphaser coaxial 
protectors in very small quantities (5-10pcs).
Any answer will be appreciated.

73
Morel
4X1AD
4x1ad@iarc.org
_______________________________________________

See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:36:42 -0800 (PST)
From: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Need UST MDPL wiring info
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Message-ID:
        <10043.192.25.142.225.1108593402.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I am trying to power up an HDX5106 MDPL-1000 winch
motor controller, and need wiring info.
UST sent me 3 pages of drawings, but there
are still missing pieces, such as, does
the motor run on 240VAC or 120VAC?  I know
the control circuits are 120VAC.  I am trying
to run the motor from the tower for now,
and hook up the RMC-1000 later; but it appears
that the RMC-1000 must be connected even
if you want to be in "local" mode.  Also, I
appear to be missing the on/off power switch
at the tower; is there supposed to be one?

Any help would be appreciated.

Rick N6RK



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:45:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Lee Buller <k0wa@swbell.net>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Taking Apart Aluminum
To: TowerTalk Reflector <towertalk@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20050216224509.19083.qmail@web81309.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Towertalkians.....
 
Does anyone have a surefire wingding way of pulling apart aluminum that is
telescoped together.  I have a TA-33 that needs to be reduced in size so I
can take it to Dayton and peddle it.  I am having a dickens of a time
getting it apart.
 
Lee - K0WA
 


Common sense is in short supply - get some and use it  - Lee Buller

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:01:45 -0600
From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] World Class Station Conundrum - help!
To: <Cqtestk4xs@aol.com>, <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <011401c5147b$7d36e650$6501a8c0@DB5QP541>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

    Bill:

        You wouldn't have a picture that you could post of those stacked 80M
quads, would you?  I sure would like to see that!

        73,


        Bernard, WA4OEJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Cqtestk4xs@aol.com>
To: <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] World Class Station Conundrum - help!


> In a message dated 2/16/05 2:20:46 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
> kjdutson@earthlink.net writes:
> I don't think you get a significant benefit above 200 feet except on 160
> meters.
> Not so......Matt's station, KC1XX, kicks butt with the stacked quads
around
> 310 ft on 80 meters.  I agree on 40 through 10 meters, 200 is enough.
>
> Bill K4XS
> _______________________________________________
>
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:23:27 -0600
From: Tim Duffy K3LR <k3lr@k3lr.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] World Class Station Conundrum - help!
To: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Cc: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com, TOWERTALK@contesting.com
Message-ID: <4213D5EF.C59330D6@k3lr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

http://www.kc1xx.com/antennas/images/80mtower.jpg

73!
Tim K3LR

http://www.k3lr.com

"Bernard(wtrone)" wrote:

>     Bill:
>
>         You wouldn't have a picture that you could post of those stacked
80M
> quads, would you?  I sure would like to see that!
>
>         73,
>
>         Bernard, WA4OEJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Cqtestk4xs@aol.com>
> To: <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] World Class Station Conundrum - help!
>
> > In a message dated 2/16/05 2:20:46 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
> > kjdutson@earthlink.net writes:
> > I don't think you get a significant benefit above 200 feet except on 160
> > meters.
> > Not so......Matt's station, KC1XX, kicks butt with the stacked quads
> around
> > 310 ft on 80 meters.  I agree on 40 through 10 meters, 200 is enough.
> >
> > Bill K4XS
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TowerTalk mailing list
> > TowerTalk@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>
> _______________________________________________
> TowerTalk mailing list
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:13:42 -0500
From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Idealized low band system designs was Re:
        ...Conundrum -help!
To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>, "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002101c51485$89c93d00$6501a8c0@akorn.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Bringing up a very interesting point... Is it
theoretically possible (with
> unlimited processing power and perhaps a lot of receiving
elements
> available) to cancel the noise?  After all, a gain antenna
helps a bit
> (because it "sees" less of the noise), but that's a
directivity thing, not
> a "gain" thing.

I started trying this in the 70's Jim. Signal phase and
level varies rapidly even at distances as close as several
hundred feet on 160 meters. That means when combining
elements spaced over a distance of a few wavelengths, the
combining system would have to recognize and track a desired
signal. That's a big technical problem for random signals on
random frequencies.

I can't directly combine arrays spaced more than 1000 feet
or so on 160 meters with manual or fixed phasing, and
automatic phasing is not practical with noise floor random
signals.

What I settled on is using the largest possible size antenna
array, and then picking wider spaced cells as "pairs" to run
in stereo on phased locked receivers. The more directivity
you can get in a limited area, the better it will work.

73 Tom



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:44:02 EST
From: KJ6Y@aol.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Need UST MDPL wiring info
To: richard@karlquist.com, towertalk@contesting.com
Message-ID: <111.440a4772.2f4542d2@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Rick.
The remote does not work without the control box connected.  It uses the 120

v from the box to operate the relays.  You can run the motor by holding down
2 
relays, the one in the top center and one on the right or left, depending on

which direction you want the tower to go.  The limit switches are not in the

circut if you hold down the relays.  Also, the middle relay has 120 v on it
so 
use an insulated screw driver.
You can run the motor on 220 V.  Just wire the 220 to the box where the 110 
is and change the wiring hook up in the motor, accordiung to the diagrammon
the 
motor.
The relay box has the local up down switch on the side.

Skip, KJ6Y
Communications Service Co
818-887-3569 


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:05:41 -0600
From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] World Class Station Conundrum - help!
To: <k3lr@k3lr.com>
Cc: Cqtestk4xs@aol.com, TOWERTALK@contesting.com
Message-ID: <012301c5148c$ce1fba90$6501a8c0@DB5QP541>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

    WOW!!

        73,


        Bernard, WA4OEJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Duffy K3LR" <k3lr@k3lr.com>
To: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Cc: <Cqtestk4xs@aol.com>; <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] World Class Station Conundrum - help!


> http://www.kc1xx.com/antennas/images/80mtower.jpg
>
> 73!
> Tim K3LR
>
> http://www.k3lr.com
>
> "Bernard(wtrone)" wrote:
>
> >     Bill:
> >
> >         You wouldn't have a picture that you could post of those stacked
80M
> > quads, would you?  I sure would like to see that!
> >
> >         73,
> >
> >         Bernard, WA4OEJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Cqtestk4xs@aol.com>
> > To: <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] World Class Station Conundrum - help!
> >
> > > In a message dated 2/16/05 2:20:46 PM Greenwich Standard Time,
> > > kjdutson@earthlink.net writes:
> > > I don't think you get a significant benefit above 200 feet except on
160
> > > meters.
> > > Not so......Matt's station, KC1XX, kicks butt with the stacked quads
> > around
> > > 310 ft on 80 meters.  I agree on 40 through 10 meters, 200 is enough.
> > >
> > > Bill K4XS
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers",
"Wireless
> > Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
any
> > questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > TowerTalk mailing list
> > > TowerTalk@contesting.com
> > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TowerTalk mailing list
> > TowerTalk@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
>
>




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