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Re: [TowerTalk] 160 invertde L

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 160 invertde L
From: K4SAV <>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:33:11 -0500
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Tom Rauch wrote:

>An 80m dipole antenna near the inverted L can drastically
>affect SWR. Many low 80m dipoles combined with the feedline
>act like a T antenna and resonate on 160.
>Also, as a general rule the better the radial system (as a
>general rule, do not take this as an "always" rule) the
>lower the antenna feed impedance. It might easily be 15-20
>ohms feed impedance.
>73 Tom

Good point Tom.  I overlooked the feedline. You are absolutely correct, 
the feedline combined with the 80M antenna could be resonant as a T on 160.

As a test, the feedline length could be changed to see if the SWR 
changes on the L.  The end of the 80M feedline could also be alternately 
connected/and removed from ground to see if there is any change in SWR 
on the 160M L.  This would be an indication of interaction.

The original number I gave for expected R for the 160M L (35 to 45 
ohms), was in error, and too high.

For an inverted L with a 70ft vertical section, and a flat top section, 
I get about 21 ohms as a minimum (at resonance) with a perfect ground.  
If the flat top droops, this could be less. With a real ground (average 
ground 13/.005) and lots of radials, (say 128 radials, 1/4 wave) this 
will add around 5 ohms, making a minimum of about 26 ohms.  Most guys 
won't add this many radials. If you use about 32 1/4 wave radials, this 
will add about 8.5 ohms.  Throw in another 1.2 ohms for #12 copper wire 
and that would make 30.7 ohms a more realistic minimum number.

Jerry, K4SAV



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