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## Re: [TowerTalk] Quagi Optimization

 To: "Al Williams" , Re: [TowerTalk] Quagi Optimization Jim Lux Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:06:49 -0800
 ```At 08:05 AM 2/20/2006, Al Williams wrote: >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lux" >To: "Pat Barthelow" ; >>In general, elements closer to the driven element are more critical (they >>have more current). > >For a REGULAR YAGI do the parasitic element's induced voltages cause >radiation which then cause currents in the neighboring elements and so on? >I am pretty sure that this is true but do these SECONDARY currents have >the amplitude and phase to have much effect on the total pattern? You bet they do. That's part of the challenge of yagi antenna design (using analytic methods): every element interacts with every other. You're essentially solving a NxN matrix equation to create a set of element excitations that gives you the desired pattern, with the elements of the matrix being the mutual coupling between the various pairs of elements. A lot of the early Yagi work focussed on coming up with convenient formulations that would let you do this without too much complexity (imagine inverting a 10x10 matrix by hand!). Typically, you'd approximate the current along the element with something like a sinusoidal distribution, to make the calculation easier. And, if you want superdirective gain (which you do), adjacent elements are actually somewhat out of phase with each other, which has the effect of cancelling side and back radiation more than it cancels the forward radiation. This has to be traded off with the IR losses in the elements (jacking up the coupling by putting elements close together may give you great directivity, but also huge losses, so the gain will be terrible). Relatively small changes in the current phase and amplitude will reduce the amount of cancellation, so the performance is degraded. >Do antenna modelling programs take these secondary currents and radiation >into account when summing up the segments and elements? yes, they do. In fact, what they do is calculate the mutual coupling from each segment in the model to every other segment in the model, build up a HUGE matrix, and solve it. So, for a 1000 segment model, you're talking solving 1000 equations with 1000 unknowns. Once you know the current in each of those 1000 segments, you can calculate the far field by summing the contributions from each segment. >K7PUC _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk ```
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