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Subject: [TowerTalk] RV: Vertical Pattern of a yagi
From: "Juan M. Chazarra EA5RS" <>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:47:52 +0200
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Or simply use a dipole for an antenna in HFTA and multiply (natural
units) the resulting pattern by the free space pattern (in dBd or
dBi-2,14) of the actual yagi being used.

Yes, I agree the result will be very similar to what you get with
HFTA+closest to actual standard antenna.

Juan EA5RS

-----Mensaje original-----
[] En nombre de Ian White GM3SEK
Enviado el: martes, 25 de abril de 2006 9:53
Asunto: Re: [TowerTalk] Vertical Pattern of a yagi

K4SAV wrote:
>EZNEC does display the pattern in free space, but it also gives the
>pattern over ground (of any characteristics) at any height, but only 
>for flat ground.  EZNEC cannot handle arbitrary terrains.  For this you

>need HFTA. However HFTA cannot handle arbitrary antenna designs. HFTA 
>works with single half wave elements or multiples thereof (2, 3, 4, 
>etc... element yagis, or stacks).
>So you need both.
The most important factors in shaping your vertical pattern are the 
antenna height, stacking (if you use it), and YOUR terrain profile. 
Unless you live on flat terrain, you will need HFTA.

Compared with height, stacking and terrain, the free-space vertical 
pattern of any particular yagi design has a relatively minor effect. Of 
course there are many *other* important differences between individual 
yagi designs; but in any practical installation, the shape of the yagi's

own free-space vertical pattern is almost completely overridden by the 
much bigger shaping effects of  height, stacking and terrain.

All that HFTA needs to include is a gradual narrowing of the free-space 
vertical pattern with increasing gain, number of elements and boom 
length. This needs nothing more than a limited menu of "generic" 
antennas, with pre-defined "generic" vertical patterns. Simply pick the 
one that best matches your number of elements and boom length.

If anyone is worried about the effects of the specific antenna design, 
try running HFTA with the next-larger and the next-smaller generic 
antennas. Alternatively, try running EZNEC with a range of yagi designs,

all at the same height over NEC's default flat terrain. In all cases, 
you will find that the individual yagi design makes very little 
difference to the vertical pattern, because the big picture is almost 
completely dominated by height, stacking and terrain.

73 from Ian GM3SEK _______________________________________________

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