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Re: [TowerTalk] The BIG one!

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] The BIG one!
From: "Peter Voelpel" <>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:21:58 +0200
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 While doing the previous simulation already with HFTA, I did another one
for my own location on a small hilltop, which benefits from slooping
foreground, with the same antennas.
Here the situation is the other way round, generally the 5 element at 100´is
better then the stack at all angles, 20db better at 1-2°, 8db better at 3°
and 5db at 5°. They are almost part from 7 to 17° and then the 5 elements
dominates again by 3 to 7 dbs.
Then I had a look at other pictures of the K5UG site and saw that it is a
hilly location as well.

I think, I must also have a 5-Element at 100´on 40m!!


-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Peter Voelpel

 I fully agree, he will not improve above his stack of 2x3 elements with the
upper at 150 feet+:

If he has the upper at 150´and the lower on 65´his gain at 4° is 5dbs
higher, on 5° 3dbs higher and 2dbs higher up to 14°.
Putting the 5 element at 150´ would gain him about 2dbs above the stack on
the very low angles up to 13° but a null at 26° and would not be that much
flexible on propagation changes.
The 5 elements at 100´has a broader vertical lobe and still a lot of gain up
to 40° (like a dipol) which might be useful for close in contacts  but is
worse for DX contests. 
I simulated the differences above flat ground.


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