Mike that is how I had to do mine also so guess it is pretty much normal
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> 1. Re: Using US Tower HDX-572MDPL Raising Fixture (k2qmf@juno.com)
> 2. Yaesu G-450A troubles (KI9A@aol.com)
> 3. Chimney mount (Bill Kohlman)
> 4. Re: Full Wave Loop Through Trees (Bill Turner)
> 5. Re: Sinking ground rods (Bill Turner)
> 6. Antenna part needed (W?QFC)
> 7. Re: Antenna part needed (Clint Talmadge)
> 8. Re: Yaesu G-450A troubles (Doug Rehman)
> 9. Re: Antenna part needed (W?QFC)
> 10. Re: Using US Tower HDX-572MDPL Raising Fixture (Doug Rehman)
> 11. Re: Full Wave Loop Through Trees (Mike, K6BR)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:23:54 -0500
> From: k2qmf@juno.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Using US Tower HDX-572MDPL Raising Fixture
> To: DrD@2020.com
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
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> Very Normal...........
>
> K2QMF
>
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:26:30 -0400 "Dr M J DiGirolamo" <DrD@2020.com>
> writes:
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> Some 10 days ago I used a crane to set my US Tower
>> HDX-572MDPL to its
>> base.
>>
>> Today I tilted it over using the "raising & lowering
>> fixture" so I could
>> mount the rotator and set the mast in place. However, I stumbled
>> upon the
>> unexpected.
>>
>> After removing all but the two hinging bolts, the tower did
>> not want to
>> tilt on its own. Tower was without a mast or antennas on it. I
>> ended up using
>> both a crow and lever bar to encourage it to tilt over. I'd
>> estimate it was as
>> much as 10 degrees off normal before there was enough lateral force
>> component
>> for the tower to lower on its own as I let the cable out.
>>
>> Questions: Is this normal? Are there those with experience
>> who would
>> share how they deal with this situation?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mike DiGirolamo, W4XN
>> Charlottesville, VA
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:42:36 EST
> From: KI9A@aol.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Yaesu G-450A troubles
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
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> gang-
>
> I have a 2 year old 450A rotor, that seems to have issues with the
> indicator. Starting from due south, and moving clockwise, the 1st 90 is
> smooth &
> accuate, then it begins to studder, and miss. It stops at due east, but
> the rotor
> itself is over rotated all way over to due west, which is normal. I
> watched
> the rotor turn, it is smooth, no problems. Seems that while watching the
> indicator motor drive the gears, the motor is studdering...but, is it the
> motor,
> or a dirty pot in the rotor? Anyone ever deal with the these??
>
> thanks & 73-Chuck KI9A
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:33:49 -0800
> From: Bill Kohlman <billkohlman@shaw.ca>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Chimney mount
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
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> Chimneys are built to support themselves. Period. By mounting a beam
> there , it is a recipe for disaster. Try a tripod at the apex of your
> roof. de VE7NEG
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:04:23 -0800
> From: Bill Turner <dezrat@copper.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Full Wave Loop Through Trees
> To: "Pat Chiles" <chilesp@adelphia.net>
> Cc: TowerTalk@contesting.com
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> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:01:03 -0400, "Pat Chiles"
> <chilesp@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone done this before, without insulators, and did the antenna give
>>expected results?
>>Thanks,
>
> ------------ REPLY FOLLOWS ------------
>
> By "without insulators" if you mean the loop wire is touching the tree
> itself, you are asking for trouble. Trees have been set on fire by
> arcing from antennas, even at relatively low power levels. The amount
> of voltage present at a node might amaze you.
>
> If you can suspend the wire well away from branches, etc, it should
> work ok.
>
> Bill, W6WRT
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:11:59 -0800
> From: Bill Turner <dezrat@copper.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Sinking ground rods
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:55:55 -0400, Bill Coleman <aa4lr@arrl.net>
> wrote:
>
>>The best way is to pound them in.
>
> ------------ REPLY FOLLOWS ------------
>
> Agreed, but not with a hammer. Buy or rent an electric hammer drill
> and you will find it becomes incredibly easy. Here in the desert there
> is a layer of caliche, a layer of soil nearly as hard as rock, about
> two feet below the surface and a hammer drill will punch through it
> with almost no effort on your part. Manually driving a ground rod
> through caliche is next to impossible no how much water you put down
> the hole. Don't ask how I know. :-)
>
> Bill, W6WRT
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:20:23 -0500
> From: W?QFC <erastber@tampabay.rr.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Antenna part needed
> To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>, "forsale-swap"
> <forsale-swap@mailman.qth.net>, <FLBOATANCHORS@yahoogroups.com>
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> I am looking for a 5/8" od x 1/2" id x 6' piece of alum tube to repair my
> antenna.
> Anyone have one or know of a source where I can buy just one piece?
> TIA es 73,
> Gene, W?QFC
> Spring Hill, Florida
> WEB SITE:
> http://www.w0qfc.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:31:24 -0600
> From: "Clint Talmadge" <unclebudd@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna part needed
> To: W?QFC <erastber@tampabay.rr.com>, <TowerTalk@contesting.com>,
> "forsale-swap" <forsale-swap@mailman.qth.net>,
> <FLBOATANCHORS@yahoogroups.com>
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> Texas Towers.
>
> http://www.texastowers.com/aluminum.htm
>
> They have a piece that has a .625" outside and the inside is .509" which
> is probably what you have. It will cost you $6.00 plus shipping.
>
> Clint - W5CPT
>
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> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 12:20 PM
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>
>
> I am looking for a 5/8" od x 1/2" id x 6' piece of alum tube to repair my
> antenna.
> Anyone have one or know of a source where I can buy just one piece?
> TIA es 73,
> Gene, W?QFC
> Spring Hill, Florida
> WEB SITE:
> http://www.w0qfc.com
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:39:40 -0500
> From: "Doug Rehman" <rehman@surveil.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Yaesu G-450A troubles
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
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>
> Check the connector on the rotator. I had a similar problem with a G-1000;
> upon opening the connector shell, I found that water had gotten in and
> dried. The contaminants in the water were conductive enough to mess up the
> direction indicator. I cleaned out the connector using a toothbrush and
> compressed air. After sealing it up with rubber splicing tape and
> Scotchkote, I haven't had any more problems.
>
> Doug
> K4DDR
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:41:38 -0500
> From: W?QFC <erastber@tampabay.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna part needed
> To: "Clint Talmadge" <unclebudd@bellsouth.net>,
> <TowerTalk@contesting.com>, "forsale-swap"
> <forsale-swap@mailman.qth.net>, <FLBOATANCHORS@yahoogroups.com>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Thanks to all that responded to my query.
> Texas Towers has what I need and I guess I can forgo breakfast one day and
> spend $6 for the piece!
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Gene, W?QFC
> Spring Hill, Florida
> WEB SITE:
> http://www.w0qfc.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:52:21 -0500
> From: "Doug Rehman" <rehman@surveil.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Using US Tower HDX-572MDPL Raising Fixture
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <003f01c6fb8b$6cf17ff0$0464a8c0@office>
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>
>
> A more expensive ($100) option, but perhaps more elegant and more easily
> positioned:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44899 (4
> Ton Hydraulic Ram and Attachments).
>
> My Tri-Ex LM-354HDSP takes a good bit before it begins to tilt on its own
> (probably 10 degrees). I had been using a small bottle jack between the
> raising fixture and the free leg (horizontally), but the ram is much
> better
> in my application. My tower doesn't return to vertical by itself- it has
> to
> be winched the entire way. (Possibly due to the mast length and antennas.)
>
> Doug
> K4DDR
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:12:42 -0800
> From: "Mike, K6BR" <noddy1211@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Full Wave Loop Through Trees
> To: "'Bill Turner'" <dezrat@copper.net>, "'Pat Chiles'"
> <chilesp@adelphia.net>
> Cc: TowerTalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <003e01c6fb8e$3625e9e0$0201a8c0@bosserver>
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>
> I agree Bill, having had the dead fronds of a Palm tree touch the end of a
> Carolina Windom. The result was a complete Palm tree fire within 5
> minutes
> of operating at 400 watts on 80 meters. It was spectacular and could be
> seen
> for a mile. Incidentally the tree survived surprisingly, I learned my
> lesson the hard way.
>
> Mike
>
>
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
>
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:01:03 -0400, "Pat Chiles"
> <chilesp@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone done this before, without insulators, and did the antenna give
> expected results?
>>Thanks,
>
> ------------ REPLY FOLLOWS ------------
>
> By "without insulators" if you mean the loop wire is touching the tree
> itself, you are asking for trouble. Trees have been set on fire by
> arcing from antennas, even at relatively low power levels. The amount
> of voltage present at a node might amaze you.
>
> If you can suspend the wire well away from branches, etc, it should
> work ok.
>
> Bill, W6WRT
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