Tnx Bob. I've been doing some research. Not sure still
what or if there is a difference between the nicopress
sleeves and other brands. I bought my cable and sleeves
from stagerigging.com. Their tools they sell I think are
made by Loos. A company in FL. They say their sleeves
and tools will hold to the cable break strength.
Nicopress has a multi groove tool for 1/8, 3/16 and 1/4
(3V F6:XM) for about $429!!!!! Ouch.
But the other manufacturers don't have one that covers
both 1/4 and 3/16. So would have to get the single 1/4 at
$214 and a multi that I think was about $150.
BTW....The Tech at NicoPress I spoke with, also a ham,
says hand swagging is just as effective as hydraulic
provided you do the requisite number of presses for each
sleeve. Same for the other manufacturers. There is a
difference in the number of crimps required between
nicopress and Loos. For 1/4 sleeves, Nicopress calls for
3 presses, Loos calls for 4.
After speaking with the techs I don't have a problem using
the hand swagers over the hydraulic...but dang they're
still so expensive!
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:59:11 -0500
"Bob Maser" <email@example.com> wrote:
> I have re-cabled 3 LM470's using a "hand" swagger made
>by H K Porter. It is 3 feet long and it does a great
>swaging job. It is, however, for 3/16" galvanized cable,
>not 1/4", which would make a huge difference.
> I agree that, unless somebody is selling a hand swagger
>for the 1/4" size, that a hydraulic swagger would be the
>way to go, certainly not a hammer! I can't believe that
>any professional would suggest that. especially
>considering what's at stake!
> Bob W6TR
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Burke"
> To: "'Greg'" <firstname.lastname@example.org>;
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Nicopress swags
>> Greg, my experience would say you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT want
>>to use a hand
>> to make the crimp in a critical application like this. I
>>had a guy at one
>> the "big box" stores make one like that for me (for
>>free, using their
>> Used it on a cable for my Titanex vertical crankover
>>vertical (not even a
>> tower). I watched the cable carefully as I made the
>>initial crank up. It
>> slipped out of the fitting almost immediately upon
>>loading. I even had
>> another "big box" guy tell me that most people just
>>"take a hammer to
>> to make the fittings work! Yikes.
>> Your body parts, antennas, towers and peace of mind are
>>worth the few
>> this will cost to have it done correctly.
>> Larry Wi5A
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: email@example.com
>> [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 9:53 PM
>> To: email@example.com
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Nicopress swags
>> Finally about ready to recable my tower. Just received
>>the 7x19 galv
>> aircraft cable, the swag sleevs and thimbles.
>> My question is ....are the boltcutter type swagging
>>tools just as good as
>> the hydraulic or electric presses? I know the tool for
>>the 1/4 sleeves is
>> pretty much only for that size and there is another tool
>>for the smaller
>> sizes. I expected to be able to find a local marine
>>outfit to be able to
>> crimp the sleeves for me.....but he charges $12-$15 for
>> a hydraulic swagger. Im tempted to get the 1/4 hand
>>tool myself and use
>> the one at ACE for the smaller crimps. Are the crimps
>>with the hand tool
>> just as strong as the hydraulic?
>> I would think if the nicopress specs have a part number
>>for the hand tool
>> for the 1/4 in sleeves that it should be fine. Im using
>>the zinc plated
>> cooper sleeves....two for each end.
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