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Re: [TowerTalk] Roof Counterpoise

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Roof Counterpoise
From: "N2TK, Tony" <>
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:35:36 -0500
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I missed your original post on this.

When I first moved to NJ, I wasn't aloud too have a tower on our
development. I knew I was going to be in that house only several months. So
drilled a hole in the center of the peak of the roof. Mounted a mast in  the
attic with a few feet sticking above the roof. Mounted a Butternut vertical
on the mast. Stapled tuned radials to the bottom of the roof joists and
attached too the mast.

It worked fine as can be expected form a high band vertical. I had fun and
the neighbors didn't even know I was operating.

N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of Jerry Keller
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 4:47 PM
To: Jason Reber;
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Roof Counterpoise

Hi, Jason.... your idea will definitely work... no doubt about it. You will
be able to radiate RF well enough to make it well worth trying. Beyond that,
it's the sort of thing you simply have to try in order to find out how well
it will work. I built something similar years ago and it worked pretty
good.... about as good as the beer can vertical. There will be those who
doubt it will work. The world is full of people who don't think anything
homebrew will work anymore... either that, or they want to know for sure
that something will work perfectly before they even start to build it.
(Those guys never build anything if there's no guarantee.)  Of course, in
the end, you yourself may find it doesn't work as well as you'd like, or as
well as something else you'll eventually come upon. But the essence of ham
radio is "try it and see"... so I would encourage you to do just that... try
it. Regardless of whether it's the the best darn antenna you've ever had (it
just might be!) or just sorta so-so (could end up that way too) ... you will
enjoy having made it and you'll learn something from it.  What more could
you ask?  Go for it!!
73, Jerry K3BZ
73, Jerry K3BZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Reber" <>
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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 11:53 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Roof Counterpoise

> Greetings Everyone-
> I would like to set up a vertical antenna at my QTH, but my small
> backyard is arranged such that it is impossible to set up a good radial
> system. In addition, my house is right in the middle of the yard, so the
> best place to put the antenna would be on my roof.
> Rather than running radial wires all over my roof, I was wondering if
> anyone on the list has tried making a counterpoise system by placing
> wire mesh (such as rabbit wire) on the underside of the roof in the
> attic? I have easy access to the underside of the roof, so the mesh
> could be stapled (using short staples, of course) right to the roof
> sheathing underside. The pieces of mesh would all be tied together to
> create a large counterpoise.
> I have not been able to find much information about the effectiveness of
> such a counterpoise in the Antenna book, or from other source, so I
> would welcome anyones experience or advice.
> Thanks,
> Jason   AC7JW
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