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Subject: [TowerTalk] Orion RC2800P
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:51:47 +0000
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Using SLIPP-NOTT on and Orion 2800 rotator mast clamp might be akin to putting 
aluminum foil around a fuse. I would ask M Square before doing that. My 14 year 
old RC2800P slips, but I understand the newer rotator clamps are better. The 
literature also recommends against pinning the mast to the rotator as it will 
void the warrantee. That tells me they want the slippage to act as a sort of 
fuse. If you can't tolerate the slippage, and you have a big stack and 
environment that will cause it, then you should probably use a different 

I currently have 23.4 sq ft of antennas on mine which is well below the 
advertised 35 sq ft capacity. One of my antennas is the Force 12 EF180C 80M 
rotating dipole which is 83 feet long. I feel it is the main contributor to the 
slippage problem. You should see it dance around in a wind storm. It is only 
4.5 sq ft wind surface area, but the element lengths are a very long lever arm 
working against the rotator at all times (start, stop, wind). I have had 
problems with the controller, but the older units had problems that have been 
fixed in newer units. If the EF180C were not on the mast, I think my slippage 
problems would be minimal or non-existent.  Even with an old ac motor type 2800 
like mine, I feel it is a very good rotator. The controller is another story 
though. Some folks have switched to Green Heron controllers which they claim 
are better. 

The best way to eliminate or minimize slippage is to follow the proper sequence 
for tightening the 10 clamp bolts. With the 4 clamp base bolts loosened, 
tighten the heck out of the 6 mast clamp bolts. These are Grade 5, 3/8x24 steel 
bolts and can take a fair amount of torque. M Square folks should be able to 
give you a torque value if you need it. After the 6 bolts are good and tight, 
tighten the 4 clamp to rotator base bolts. If it slips after that, it probably 
needed to for protecting your rotator gears. The M Square folks bought a bit of 
a mess from Orion and have been trying to improve on the product quality and 
reliability. They are always very helpful to me over the phone which is better 
that some others I can think of. 

John Owens - N7SEJ

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