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Re: [TowerTalk] Got a tower/antenna in a CC&R subdivision?

To: Steve Katz <>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Got a tower/antenna in a CC&R subdivision?
From: Krishna Kanakasapapathi <>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:33:32 -0400
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 Yes, I did meet Dennis at the Raleigh Hamfest in April.
 I have his business card in front of me. He actually has his morning Qth in 
Apex, quite
 close to my home Qth.


Steve Katz wrote:

> Krish, now that I looked you up to see where you are, do you know Denny Had
> W4USR?
> He lives in Cary, NC (and runs Cary Audio), is an active and well known ham
> and might have some advice.
> Denny used to be K8KXK, the founder and president of Dentron many years ago
> when he was in Ohio.  Nice guy.
> And good luck!
> 73 Steve WB2WIK/6
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krish []
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:11 AM
> To: Dan Zimmerman N3OX
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Got a tower/antenna in a CC&R subdivision?
> Folks,
>  Let me give some more information on the situation.
>  The covenant goes  like this
>  "All antenna requests will need to be approved by the Architectural review
> committee".
>  If there is a request that comes along and is something that does not fit
> the bill, the Arch committe
>  will deny the request and send it to the board to make a consideration.
>  My original proposal had a stepper at the top of the crankup and a TV
> antenna at the bottom of
>  the crankup. I sent in a copy of the 1996 OTARD ruling as well. The stepper
> was hand drawn
>  in the proposal along with a copy of the aluma tower brochure. The Arch
> committee has never
>  seen a setup like this, so was unable to perceive and they just denied it.
> Well, they did not even
>  take up on my request to present it to the committee. In my subdivision,
> the arch committee is a
>  inclusive group unknown to the public for fear of retribution. Hence my
> gripe that there was no
>  fair consideration.
>  Now the board is looking into the merits. In the meanwhile, i had someone
> measure the offset
>  from the roof to the tower when the antenna is installed. We found that it
> will be entirely below
>  the roof when down, and blend well with the trees behind the tower when
> cranked up.
>  I ran around and got about 70% of the neighbors sign off. Some in person by
> knocking the door,
>  but a few others by sending in mail with return postage. About 3 out of 5
> that i mailed never
>  returned it. Perhaps procrastination or they have opinions. No one objected
> except one guy who
>  does not see the tower and is a next door neighbor. He is located at the
> other side of the tower.
>  When i ran the idea by him, he wanted the tower to be placed not near his
> property , but the
>  other side. I complied and changed the proposal after getting the other
> owners permission. In
>  Dec, this guy did not voice out any concern, but in April, he says he has
> concerns. I have over
>  70% approval from those directly impacted, so i have pushed it to the
> board. The board wants
>  to do their due diligence and talk to the neighbors to see what they feel.
> However, this is a gray
>  area. I don't know what they talk. I am sure they won't be talking about
> Otard and TV antennas.
>  Hence i am doing everything right to keep a positive attitude after waiting
> for 3 months now. I am
>  a solid contributor on the board. The board knows it and the people know
> it. Where the
>  Arch committee falters, with trying to impose fines for compliance, i am
> out there working with
>  people the friendly way and working out the differences to achieve
> compliance. I hate this
>  anonymous Arch committee crap. But they say that people won't volunteer
> after the several
>  lawsuits they have had over the years.
> 73's
> Krish
> w4vku
> Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote:
> > WB2WIK says:
> >
> > >however none of them had any CC&Rs or HOAs involved
> >
> > Steve, thanks for chiming in... I hadn't thought about that, though it
> > seems that Krish's HOA is considering allowing this installation even
> > though they could likely outvote him and reject it out of hand.
> >
> > W6WRT says, regarding promises of money:
> >
> > >A person's or business's "word" is backed up my money all the time.
> > It's how our
> > >civil justice system works, like it or not.
> >
> > Absolutely, but the suggestion to put in writing that you'll make up
> > the difference in property values is essentially settling a number of
> > lawsuits that haven't yet been brought against you, and that seems a
> > little much to me!
> >
> > I agree with you, and with Steve, and you can be sure that the YL and
> > I are staying faaaaaar away from HOA-encumbered properties when it's
> > time to buy.  That said, it sounds like Krish has a shot at convincing
> > the board  to allow a reasonable installation within the regulatory
> > framework of his HOA, which is something that absolutely should be
> > encouraged.
> >
> > When the HOA says "No, you cannot put up a tower, period," that's when
> > the suggestion to just move is appropriate.
> >
> > Dan
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