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Subject: [TowerTalk] [Tower Talk] Was something else - Now Radian specs vs.Peoria specs ??
From: "Clint Talmadge" <>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:19:54 -0500
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Bob, AD5VJ asked a question about a concrete base for a Rohn tower.

When Bob, NA6T posted this reply I thought the amount of concrete sounded a bit 
high. I checked the Radian site and sure enough that is what is listed.  So I 
drug out my old Peoria Rohn Catalog, circa 1983 and researched base dimensions. 
Peoria Rohn specs call for a 2' X 2' by 4' deep hole for the tower that Bob, 
AD5VJ is installing. It calls for guy anchors of 2' X 2' by 1' deep.

Which raises the question: Did Radian re-engineer the base dimensions or did 
the fear of litigation cause Radian to up the numbers?

I've installed two towers for myself, both Rohn 25G, both in the 30' to 40' 
range ( I use a full section for the base) and both were planted in 2' X 2' X 
4' holes. Neither came down (yet). In fact the one I have now is planted in a 
2' round by 5' deep hole dug by the local electrical contractor with a auger in 
about 15 minutes for $75 (THE way to do it).

Second question: Have I been overly lucky or is 4' X 4' X 4' a bit of overkill?

Clint - W5CPT
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Smith 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 54, Issue 105

  Hi Bob,

  if you look at the self supporting Rohn 25 Tower detail drawing on 
  the link below you will see that the
  foundation will be about 2.4 cu yards.

  Then in the descriptions on the page click on the "Foundation Details"

     There are about 36 'redi-mix' bags in a cu. yard ( 2/3 cu ft per bag)
  so you are going to need a whole lot of bags of redi-mix.   Call a 
  truck and get the concrete dumped in
  the hole.   You will also need rebar, either single lengths or you 
  can wire up a cage with the rebar.  I've found
  threaded  Galvanized rod that is 5/8" or 3/4" in dia that is about 4' 
  long that I've used for the vertical sections that the
  tower base is bolted to.   This way you can drop the complete cage 
  into the hole, level it and pour the concrete
  in the hole and everything is done.  Be sure to have good drainage 
  from the base to the ground so you will not
  have any standing water on the base. Be sure the base has a good flat 
  area of concrete to sit on.

  The other way is to use a section of rohn tower in the hole and just 
  pour the concrete around the tower section.

  Also be sure that the bottom of the hole as good drainage with sand 
  or gravel in the bottom of the hole.  This way
  any water that gets inside of the tower sections drains out the 
  bottom of the tower in the hole.  Don't do like a
  lot of people do and just put the tower section or cage on the floor 
  of the hole in the dirt and pour the concrete

  I've got some pictures of a cage I use for rohn25 if you would like 
  to see them, drop me a line and i'll send them
  to you

  hope this helps,

  Bob Smith
  Robert Smith Consulting
  "Wireless Installations -- Government, Businesses & ISP's"
  F.C.C. Licensed-Commercial & Amateur Services
  A.R.S NA6T
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  1-707-964-4931 w/answering machine
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  However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

  Message: 8
  Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:17:36 -0500
  From: "AD5VJ  Bob" <>
  Subject: [TowerTalk] Ready Mix Cement
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  I am planning a tower installation (40 feet Rohn 25) and am wondering 
  how deep the hole should, how big in diameter and how many
  bags of ready mix cement I should buy to fill the hole.

  Also wondering if I should use rebar and if there is a brand of 
  cement better than any other brand and what mixture of cement or if
  the one for standard sidewalks, driveways, ect will work or if there 
  is a special mixture to use for a tower installation.

  It is my first tower to erect.

  Probably one set of guys wires (size, type of material??)

  I will be mounting an old refurbished Hornet tribander, Ham IV rotor, 
  TitanDX vertical at the top and a VHF/UHF vertical on the

     73 fer nw es gud DX,
  Bob AD5VJ
  Old calls: WY5L/KH3-KE5CTY-N5IET

  FISTS: # 12637, SKCC# 2369
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