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Re: [TowerTalk] Tower ACCIDENT

To: "Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW" <>,<>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower ACCIDENT
From: "Mark Robinson" <>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:31:21 -0400
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Yes I can imagine the pain - I remember falling out of a tree when I was a 
kid - I will never forget how much it hurt - fortunately at that age I was 
pretty much undamaged but man it hurts when every organ in your body is 
bounced around.

I suppose that if insufficient drainage gravel is put in the bottom of the 
tower mounting hole then the legs can stay filled with water and rust very 
badly over the years.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, 26 June, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower ACCIDENT

> I havent seen the legs of the tower to be honest, since I got out of the
> hospital, my lawyer has it he sent it to a metal expert who told him that
> the legs were rusted on the inside and therefore collapsed,
> I have put up and taken down many towers over the yrs,
> this one ( rohn 25 )  just buckled, and down she came, I dont remember
> falling, just waking up sucking air,
> the tower on top of me,
> and the pain, Let me tell you the pain,..  I have been Combat wounded, But
> the pain I felt from a broken body, That hurt !
>   for 25 days I was hospitalized, 14 days in intensive care, I had a blood
> clot in my left lung, I am lucky to be alive,
>                                           Joey
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kd4e" <>
> To: "Dan Cisson" <>
> Cc: "Richard Joey Fiero II W5TFW" <>;
> <>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower ACCIDENT
>> Dan & Joey,
>>    We do not have enough information yet.
>>    Joey is on the 6M list and many of the guys prayed
>> and encouraged him through the early days following his
>> accident.
>>    Joey didn't post the insurance report, perhaps the
>> missing variables are in there.
>>    I am guessing that the tower may have suffered some
>> sort of internal rusting or some other damage prior to
>> his work on it.
>>    The stress of the work at 100 feet and then removing
>> the top sections may have stressed those weaknesses until
>> they finally gave.
>>    There may also have been a change in weather, e.g.
>> wind gusts, temperature, etc.
>>    Metal fatigue sometimes results in failures at odd
>> moments and I am sure Joey is happy that tower failed
>> when he was at 40 feet vs 100!
>>> I found a couple of things you said that did not add up correctly,
>>> obviously
>>> it happened,, but seems it should not have. You said you had the tower
>>> down
>>> to the 40 ft. level...By the way, is the tower Rohn 25??
>>> When the tower was fully up with the antennas and all the guy cables,
>>> that
>>> tower was at maximum load. Then you added your body weight, your gear to
>>> take the tower down, and all the movement that comes with getting a
>>> tri-bander down from 100 ft. That is theoretically when the tower shoud
>>> have
>>> collapsed. The only way I could see any different, is the bottom set of
>>> wires created some pivot at the failure point. But if that tower was up
>>> with
>>> proper guy cables, with a minimum of 3/16 EHS, 3990 lb break strength,
>>> the
>>> guy should have never broke. I am sure sorry of your accident, I hope
>>> what I
>>> am describing, and what happened to you can foil another tower
>>> tragedy...I
>>> sure feel it should not have happened....Best Wishes,, Good Luck to 
>>> you,,
>>> Dan Cisson N4GNR
>> -- 
>> Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E
>> Personal:
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