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Re: [TowerTalk] LMR240 for stub filters?

To: jeremy-ca <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR240 for stub filters?
From: Eric Scace K3NA <eric@k3na.org>
Reply-to: eric@k3na.org
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:19:54 -0400
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The main effects of coax choice for the stubs:

1.  voltage handling capacity -- The stub terminates in open/short and 
thus the VSWR will be very high on other than the design fundamental 
(pass) frequency; e.g., harmonics.  Fortunately, the power levels should 
not be high at these frequencies.  Nevertheless, if transmitting at 3850 
kHz on a stub cut for 3525 kHz, the SWR on the stub will not be ideal 
and some power will be present at less than ideal frequencies.

2.  loss characteristics -- Low-loss coax (e.g., hardline) will have a 
sharper rejection notch than higher loss coax: deeper null but narrower 
in bandwidth.

-- Eric K3NA

on 07 Jul 17 21:44 jeremy-ca said the following:
> When I was building the 2 station operation here I tested a wide variety of 
> flexible coax looking for the best null. CATV RG-11 was the best, giving a 
> solid 25dB+ null,  The impedence doesnt matter. I would suspect the the LMR 
> would be similar in performance.
>
> A very easy way to tune the stub is to cut it a bit long, hook it to your 
> receiver thru a T connector and with a noise bridge simulating the antenna. 
> Spin the RX dial back and forth and note the frequency of the deepest null. 
> Then trim until you have it centered exactly where you want it. On 80/160 
> you could use vacant band noise in the middle of the day.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Pack, NX5M" <nx5m@txcyber.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:18 PM
> Subject: [TowerTalk] LMR240 for stub filters?
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>> Wondering what the group thinks about the use of LMR240 as stub filters 
>> for the 80 and 160 stations here.  I have a bunch of it that I am not 
>> going to use for anything so if you guys think it would work for this 
>> purpose at least I can use it for something constructive.
>> This stuff would be used behind 1500w amps.  I know that someone has 
>> melted down stubs made of RG58 which is pretty much the same as LMR195.  I 
>> believe LMR240 has a higher power rating than RG58 (which I would never 
>> use anyway) so this got me to thinking that 240 might work.
>> What do you guys think?
>>
>> 73,
>> Bob NX5M
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