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Re: [TowerTalk] permit in hand

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] permit in hand
From: "bill rubin" <>
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:36:42 -0500
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Guess what its not the LAW its regulations.  Its UNWRITTEN Regulations which
hamper the Hobby and community service. When the zoning office says you need
this, then says now you need some thing more.   There was no written
regulations in my situation.  If there are written regulations to follow for
others great.

And while you say this thread is "inappropriate " that's your opinion.
Others have similar stories and are dealing with the same issues.   Its
"tower talk"  and zoning issues are apart of the tower construction process.

If I can share my experience with others and learn from theirs thats all
that counts.  Thank You

All the best,
Bill N1HWC

On 9/1/07, <> wrote:
>  In a message dated 9/1/2007 7:07:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> writes:
> >  The intention here was not to "bitch-about-the-government" but rather
> bring attention to the issue(s).   In my case i believed the need to have a
> PE stamp on each page did not bring any more value of safety.
>     Are you a PE or any kind of engineer? Are you involved with building
> codes or construction practices? You want to put up a tower, deck, garage,
> outhouse, etc., you play by their rules. Sorry - that's SOP just about
> anywhere these days.
> >  I had a letter with a PE stamp from Rohn referencing the design. But
> was not sufficient.  If we let State and local governments place too many
> road blocks in the way then no one will be permitted to have a tower.  So
> this is related to the reflector.
>      Yes, in the good old days if you wanted to put up a tower, you just
> put it up. Times have changed. Add NIMBY neighbors and putting up a tower in
> many places is challenging. But if you jump thru the hoops - generally you
> can get a permit to put one up. (Whether your CC&R's will actually let you
> is another story.)
> >  Again, to all my road blocks for permit were small in comparison as
> compare to others, but why should we tolerate it ?
>     Uhh, because it's the law?
> >  I agree 100% that installations need to be safe. But what is reasonable
> to prove that it is safe ?
>     Manufacturing standards and engineering calculations?
> >  In my opinion HAM towers have been put in the same category as Cell
> towers because local governments to not know how to address them
> separately.   We are not commercial operations, we do not have funds as a
> corporations, or a legal department.... etc.
>     Many of the building regs I've seen differentiate between commercial
> and amateur. If they don't, get yourself on the Planning Commission and work
> on getting them changed. That's what many hams have done in many
> jurisdictions.
>     Thank you for ending this inappropriate TT thread.
> Cheers,
> Steve     K7LXC
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