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Re: [TowerTalk] Square vs Round Holes

To: "Dino Darling" <>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Square vs Round Holes
From: "Its from Onion" <>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:09:20 -0500
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well there are lots of PE's that disagree.  I have formed hundreds of holes 36" 
round X 8 feet with 4 yards of cement and they have held up for years.
When was the last time a tractor-trailer truck struck your tower and it stayed 

Also, what basis are you saying the hole would have to be bigger?  I can 
provide (and have on here) drawing certified by PE and state contractors that 
disagree with your assessment.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dino Darling<> 
  To: Its from Onion<> 
  Cc: towertalk<> 
  Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:02 PM
  Subject: Square vs Round Holes

  -=Since everyone else takes liberties of changing the SUBJECT name of the 
thread, let me give it a shot also.=-

  "Save on concrete"?  Its not the shape of the hole that matters, but the size 
of the foundation. :-)

  A 36" hole would need to be deeper, and in my opinion, too small of a 
diameter.  Even a 60" hole would need to be deeper to make up for the loss of 
the "corners" of a square hole.

  Dino - K6RIX<>

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: [TowerTalk] excavator
    From: "Its from Onion" <>
    Date: Mon, May 12, 2008 1:49 pm
    To: "towertalk" <>

    ** Lee George wrote: **

    Hi Scott,

    Nobody said the hole has to be square. Find a utility pole contractor that 
    has a digger derrick truck with a 36" bit.

    ALL OF the traffic light / street light poles in your city have round holes 
and you cant knock 
    them down with a truck. Trust me, I seen it tried.
    Might even save on concrete.

    For the life of me cannot see why ham folks love square holes, much easer 
to dig round

    F. Lee George (KE4VYN)
    Construction Supervisor (retired)
    Traffic Engineering
    City of Birmingham

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