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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging a 5'x5'x8' tower footing
From: Eugene Jensen <>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 00:26:02 -0400
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I want to keep this in a proper prospective as the ground you are digging in 
can be a lot of different types and without knowing for sure it can range 
from cement hard to soft sand. My 555 pad is 6x6x8 with it rebar cage and it 
was dug inspected and was poured in two days and took 10 yards to close. Why 
so big "soft sand". If you have soft ground form 3 or 4 feet back from the 
hole and have the driver pour real slow as you don't want it to cave in on 
you. Having a concrete contractor is worth the cost if you not done this 
kind of work before. I think mine cost $1800.00 and the concrete was 
$1000.00 I look at it you have to rent a machine, dig it, make a cage and 
then form it and then the pour. I don't believe I would have save any money 
doing the work myself. So get some bids and think about that approach. As 
far as a small hole check the local graveyards and find who digging the 
holes. Those guys are real good at digging  in tight places and don't mind 
side money and they sometimes comes with a small machine.  Above all be 
safe. 73 Gene K2QWD
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan NV8A" <>
To: "towertalk reflector" <>
Cc: "Scott McClements" <>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging a 5'x5'x8' tower footing

>I don't remember the depth and can't put my hands on the drawings for my
> HDX-555 tower, but the contractor used a large augur then squared the
> hole (sort of) by hand. He ended up using 9 yards of concrete instead of
> 6 1/2, but I still paid the price he quoted originally.
> It didn't register at the time, but he did climb right down into the
> hole, which was probably not OK, but I assumed that he knew what he was
> doing, since he works with concrete all day.
> 73
> Alan NV8A
> On 05/12/08 02:46 pm Scott McClements wrote:
>> I am in the process of trying to find a excavator to dig the footing
>> for my HDX572 tower.  To the 5 people I've talked to so far, this
>> 5x5x8 hole is difficult. I think mostly because none of them have a
>> small enough backhoe. Most of them want to dig a big hole and have me
>> pour into a concrete form and backfill later.
>> They claim they can backfill and bring the soil back into
>> "undisturbed" condition around the footing by compaction - even
>> claiming that this might be more reliable than just digging a hole
>> just to the size I need.
>> I am lining a couple people up for estimates, but I think this already
>> sounds like the are trying to wring a couple days of work out of this
>> - maybe I am wrong here. I have even have one person decline giving an
>> estimate altogether. Should this be an easy task for a skilled person
>> to dig on a mini-excavator? I was told that if the hole is deeper than
>> 4', that no person can enter it unless walls are built up.
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