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Re: [TowerTalk] Feedpoint Impedance

To: "Towertalk Reflector" <>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Feedpoint Impedance
From: "Ward Silver" <>
Reply-to: Ward Silver <>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:26:39 -0700
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> Radiation resistance should be fixed..

Oh, right...duh.

The current equation will do - but the radiator (I may have confused things 
by referring to it as a "dipole") may be anywhere between one-half and one 
wavelength long, so the current won't be a simple cosine function.  It 
*will* be zero at the ends :-)


73, Ward N0AX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lux" <>
To: "Ward Silver" <>; "Towertalk Reflector" 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Feedpoint Impedance

> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Ward Silver <>
>>Sent: Jul 28, 2008 12:46 PM
>>To: Towertalk Reflector <>
>>Subject: [TowerTalk] Feedpoint Impedance
>>While we're on the math subject, does anyone know of an equation that 
>>either feedpoint impedance or radiation resistance as a function of 
>>along a linear radiator of known electrical length?  Free space would be
>>fine, I can work in the effects of ground later.
> Radiation resistance should be fixed.. it's a function of the size and 
> shape of the radiator.  Feedpoint impedance will change with position, of 
> course (essentially, it's some transformation of the combination of 
> radiation resistance, loss resistance and the reactance of the antenna)
> I don't think there's a nice analytical expression for it.  One could 
> start with the Schelkunoff formulation (the one using sine and cosine 
> integrals, which are series expansions).  Do you need the reactive part? 
> If not, you could assume that the current has a sinusoidal distribution, 
> and once you know the radiation resistance, the feedpoint R at the center 
> will be the Rrad+Rloss.. Moving away from the center, it would scale as 
> 1/cos(distance), becoming infinite at the very end.
> Orfanidis's online book might be a good source.. he has equations for the 
> current at various places along the element, and that's really what you're 
> looking for.  Chapter 16 or 22, 
> I suspect.
> Practically, I've done this kind of thing with NEC.. run a series of cases 
> with systematic variation in the position, generate a table, and then do 
> interpolation.
> Jim, W6RMK 


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