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Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 72, Issue 43

To: jtml@vla.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 72, Issue 43
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:11:25 -0800
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John Lyles wrote:

> I am finishing up a 25G install at QTH this weekend, and it is 46
> feet tall. It has 2 sets of guys, out at 32-33 feet from the base. I
> used Hubble Bust-type anchor rods and plates, which are sunk 6 feet
> into a diagonal hole 45 deg. With good soil, they are rated for up to
> 10,000 lbs, and are only $25 an anchor. Power company uses them for
> guying poles. I trusted these, but using pipe and concrete like you
> are suggesting, hmmm, you better have an expert comment on this. I
> would be afraid of having the concrete shift for those too, in the
> wind, esp if your ground is that soft. Best to do a real concrete
> dead load deep in the ground with the force pulling directly in line
> with the anchor rod (not pipe).
> 

One way to get the clearance, AND use a decent anchor like John mentions..
Use the short section of pipe as a "spacer".. the guy comes off the 
anchor up the half dozen feet to the top of the pipe, and then to the 
tower. This makes the tension load in the guy into a straight 
compression on the heavy pipe (which you can fill with concrete, if you 
like), so then it's a matter of whether the concrete pad for the pipe is 
big enough to "float" the pipe and the down load.

You'd have to have someone do the calculations on this, but it's a 
fairly common thing where, for instance, they have a wooden power pole 
next to a sidewalk and need to run the guy across the sidewalk and keep 
it high enough so that you have clearance.


It's NOT going to fix the basic problem of having the anchor point close 
to the base of the main tower, so the loads are high.
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