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Re: [TowerTalk] AB-577 Surface Guy Anchors?

To: "'Roger \(K8RI\)'" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>, <k4tmc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] AB-577 Surface Guy Anchors?
From: "Robert West" <robert.west@eatmoresoap.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:23:02 -0400
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I like the hitch idea.  As long as no one "forgets" and drives off with the
tower!  This would be a 4 or 5 day setup but I guess if we found folks who
aren't planning on going anywhere that would be ideal  But would have to
have them on-board for that at least a week prior.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger (K8RI) [mailto:K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net] 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:27 PM
To: k4tmc@aol.com
Cc: robert.west@eatmoresoap.com; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] AB-577 Surface Guy Anchors?



k4tmc@aol.com wrote:
> Robert,
>
> You did not indicate what will be at the top of the 75 ft AB577 mast.  
> That will also have some bearing on how strong your guy point should be.
>   
It would have a lot of bearing on the guy points.
> Since you are on a parking lot type area, I assume that you can park 
> vehicles on the surface.  If so, then make a frame assembly that can be 
> held down by the weight of a car/truck by driving a wheel on top of the 
> assembly.  Or, if you have vehicles with towing capabilities, then use 
> the tow hitch assembly to attach guy lines.  If they can handle a 
> 3000lb boat, then they will handle the 577 mast easily.
>
>   
Actually the tires of a car/truck/SUV would give much more gripping 
power than the metal "boats" mentioned.
In Robert's group there must be several who own pickup trucks and/or 
SUVs. Most, or many have a 3 point hitch on the back. Any of them 
configured for towing would have a hitch that could be used, rather than 
looking for a winch.  However they would need to tie around the mount 
and not the ball as a rope or cable can easily slip off the ball.

73

Roger (K8RI)
> Oh, be sure to have the vehicle owners sign waivers relative to any 
> damage caused by a falling mast.
>
> 73,
> Henry - K4TMC
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert West <robert.west@eatmoresoap.com>
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 1:23 pm
> Subject: [TowerTalk] AB-577 Surface Guy Anchors?
>
> Hello all.  I have acquired one of the AB-577 mast kits with the 
> extension
> to 75'.   I am needing to erect this on a parking lot type area, 
> asphalt.
> We are not permitted to penetrate the asphalt so we need to fabricate a
> method to anchor the guys on the surface, such as with weights.  I've 
> seen a
> method that is used for a non-penetrating mount for large dish antennas 
> on
> roofs that consist of steel angle iron welded in a frame and filled with
> concrete cinder blocks bolted together with threaded rod so that they 
> don't
> move.  Works well in that usage but how about something similar for a 
> guy
> anchor?  This is a temporary thing so it would need to be easily 
> removed.
> But my real question is, besides any other ideas, how heavy would I 
> need to
> make these 3 weights?  The height is 75' and is rated for 75mph wind.  
> Would
> feel safer if the guy anchors could give us 100mph just to be on the 
> safe
> side.    Maybe a layer or 2 of block and then sandbags?
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
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